/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>8534
>writer for fuwanovel
She's written 5 articles total and 2 are about Doki Doki Literature Club…

>>8538
They like the idea of sword lesbians, not Utena

>>8535
I saw this guy a lot every time I open fc, it's turning me into mustache guys, please tell is he bad guy or neutral/good?

>>8536
Neutral/good so far. He is also homo for >>4073

TFW topping preference goes against the grain.

Normally I ship the ships where Char tops, but this time, I'm all for having Char get taken care of.

Especially if Challia has more fatherly/brotherly feelings for Char, but ends up giving in to cute seductive superior, since sex seems to be the one way to actually get his affection through to Char.

>>8493
I think VNs have a higher barrier to entry since not only are a lot of them not translated but also normies can't into patching.

>>8459
Tokyo Onmyoji is such a good example of this. It's a VN I feel excelled at giving its readers diverging storylines and bad endings. Bad endings can also be fun in their ability to let you explore less appealing or darker sides of a character without compromising the overarching story.
>I have a feeling that the way VNs are finished stories at release can really strengthen them
This is what really scares me about the episodic release model we've seen increase in popularity over recent years. I know it's always existed (Higurashi and Umineko are examples that immediately come to mind), but it's not a method I find particularly appealing.
>>8493
>with a lot of manhwa it’s so repetitive and dull that I don’t understand how anyone can.
I've had this issue, too. I'm sure there are good ones out there, but I've given multiple series a try before realizing that I've wasted countless chapters waiting for it to "get good." It runs into the problem a lot of serialized fiction has where the characters perpetually run in circles trying to kill time.
>>8520
The length probably also increases that barrier. Also, a lot of the English-translated VNs cover topics that don't appear to be popular in anime/manga/manhwa, so it's probable you won't find something appealing to you depending on what type of BL you like.

Angst, crying, one sided pining. Make the guy depressed until the ending!

>>8485
The thing is- I want battered housewife Screamer. From G1 to Earthspark, I think it's a great relationship. But there's a limit to the over feminization of his character where everyone is yelling GET PREGNANT/SPARKED and making him literally into a woman. All she does is nag, whine, and want to have children with Megatron.

That's my problem.

There is no recognition that Megatron kept him around because he's smart, strong, and could actually fuck him (on the battlefield) if he let his guard down. There's no resistance. No scheming. No pettiness that makes his character, he's just a baby maker with a vagina. KOSS, oddly enough, doesn't have that problem despite Knock Out being every gay stereotype from 2006-2010. He could have done drag in the series (I mean he did drag race) and it would not have broken his character.

But for some reason, he isn't hit with the girl beam. Even in KoBd, he's beefed up. I don't get it. So by extension, so is SS.

>>8486
>But there's a limit to the over feminization of his character where everyone is yelling GET PREGNANT/SPARKED and making him literally into a woman.
This is making me wish I still had that “you gonna light that pipe?” comic edit where it was Megs and Screamer kek (also reminds me of this)

I ship Overlord and Trepan though so I’m really not one to speak on this matter…
>he isn't hit with the girl beam.
He’s too sassy gay to be the woman in the relationship, you can’t really write a woman like how you would write a sassy gay man but you can absolutely write Starscream into a nagging harpy if you really wanted to.

>>8487
If you haven't, the Aligned novels are great for how much thought is put into character building. Its focused near singularly on OP, Meg and Alpha Trion, but I love reading SS's moments because he comes off as legitimately wanting to kill Meg at every opportunity. I want them to hate each other, but in a bitter old marriage variety.

(I strongly recommend Exiles first before Covenant)

But because of the fandom specifically, I gravitate towards unheard of pairings or characters that don't have the biggest fandom behind them. Because the fans of the character are insanely more likely to keep them as is and explore or dig into who they are vs Jazzprowl, Rodisound, Dratchet.

The further you go from the fandom favs, the more you get how they look in canon even within fanfic(a particular Megasound fic upset me so much I almost ended up giving up on them)

i like when the guys are portrayed as straight or on the asexual spectrum until they meet the other guy, so no…
the idea of them being gay isn't attractive to me. but to be fair i don't like when they act too moidy in general so the turn off is not appliable just to them being homosexual. i guess i just want an unrealistic and idealized version of guys. it makes things more romantic and hot

It's all about gap moe and well-rounded personality for me. I don't want them to come off as girly but for the sake of making myself clear I should mention that I don't think of coomer behavior or macho when I say "manly". The real hotness comes from contrasts. Like a serious, honorable and sophisticated dude that values etiquette but then over-reacts or gets emotionally confused when things don't go his way or when his potential love interest approaches him. Or super serious tradition-loving guy that throws an autistic tantrum sometimes.
A bit like the cartoon villains from the past to be honest lol. Threatening at first but then they turn out to be naive and do dumb shit or throw a fit until their super loyal totally not gay sidekick calms them down. Or an allegedly unemotional scientist with hidden insecurities.

There is a lot. But them being outright feminine/boyish kills my enjoyment since cuteness and emotions should be the top on the ice cake not the defining trait everything else is based around. That aside it's just cute and hot af seeing some scary dude softening for a certain other dude. It hits very differently from a blushing insecure softie being lovely dovey. That aside I cannot even relate to those types. Like I don't self-insert or anything but I at least have to vaguely understand a character to like him and I can't with those male and female moe blobbs anime use to have.

Somewhat relatedly, Sex in the City is a good parallel to this thread, although there were a few female writers on the show. In the early seasons, the main writers were gay men, and they wrote these four women as gay men in various aspects, but especially in their sex lives. This is most evident with Samantha. In the original column, she is described as having various no-strings-attached short-term flings with various men. But in the show, she is essentially a hypersexual gay bottom who has to have sex every day and essentially has male orgasms.

>>8447
Real

>>8450
Idol/idol anime fans are just insane, that's why. You chose the wrong niche to get invested in, I'm afraid.

>>8451
Funnily enough none of the 2.5D I've been into were adaptations of idol series. Just fujo stuff. I did watch some Hypmic plays through a friend but those are relatively easy to come by.

Both would be the best, but I care about the characters being interesting more, for me personally the characters being engaging on their own is more important than interactions, especially if most of the interactions are cookie-cutter, if they don't have an interesting story or origin even, I am not really going to be into them.
My favorite dynamic is antagonist/antihero/antagonist with redemption arc with hero, and often thankfully the nemesis gets a great design, even better than the mains.

Daredevil is a good example of a general vice shift. In any another context Matt/Foggy would have been the most popular shit, but Foggy looked like he was objectively and canonically an unattractive guy and so it got pushed aside in comparison to Daredevil/Punisher (a more typical rivals ship), but around 3-4 years Matt/Foggy became popular and surpassed Daredevil/Punisher, so I think again there is a shift where dynamics and character interaction prevail over just looks

>>4609
Harry Du Bois/Kim Kitsuragi from Disco Elysium
Roadhog/Junkrat from Overwatch

>>8302
>The author decided to post two versions to appeal to everyone, but I still hated it.
I think I know the exact fic you are talking about. The sex was really bad anyway so no great loss, but still…
>Is this the future of yaoi shipping? With every gay sex scenario comes a straight reimagining of that scenario?
Gun to my head, I'd prefer at least having an option as opposed to being served nothing but straight sex masquerading as gay sex. But I agree it's a very sad state of affairs. It'd be less concerning if it was a small minority, but when it becomes a sizeable percentage of a fandom… The last fandom I was openly involved in on social media was nearly 10 years ago, and I had to quit cold turkey because the trans stuff was becoming too prevalent for me. To hear that it's apparently only gotten worse is depressing as hell.

>>8132
>then it's just projection of their genderfeelz onto their fave.
One of the most egregious examples of this I’ve seen recently is a fanfic author writing the uke as trans but still having the clit be referred to as a dick. The cope is on a whole new level, it’s honestly pathetic to see. The author had some good stuff previously but suddenly started flooding the ship tag with this shit, it’s a shame.

i know fags and bl are different but bl should reflect reality in this case