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 No.9888[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Ah shit, I hate when I reply to a thread that is past bump limit.
Shit you Hate 3.0, post stuff that makes you unreasonable enraged.

Prior thread >>4907
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 No.13550

>>13548
>>13549
I don't know the context but I've often seen arguments like anon's pic be used in regards to how people make characters bottoms to "humilliate them" or to "degrade them" implying that bottomness is inherently offensive or whatever so Anon's twitter screencap is arguing that "maybe top-coded characters may willingly bottom" (as in it's not something that's done to them as an act of humilliation)

To that I say fuck them anyway because I DO like making generally considered "top-like" characters into bottoms both for humilliation purposes and for being-a-slut purposes, why do you care.

 No.13552

>>13548
>They aren't CEOs or the one's who manage the house, they’re shounen mc's who love fighting and eating.
I got whiplash reading this line because lately all the BL and non-BL stuff I read is about literally CEOs and "guild masters" and police directors, and yeah I want guy who spends all day stressed as fuck managing other people to lie down and let himself be pampered and worshiped. It wouldn't have occurred to me to apply this to Haikyuu kids or something but if they are then, damn, I hope they expand their media interests because you can't throw just any bedroom dynamic at literal teenagers.

 No.13553

>>13552
>you can't throw just any bedroom dynamic at literal teenagers
I was discussing something similar and got hit with 'oh, just like on steven universe'… no sis, like in generation kill… When people try to apply serious dynamics to literal baby shows it rankles me.



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 No.3208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.13236

>>12763
>Gacha games are so bad now that the bare minimum Hoyoverse does is considered a lot
It's kind of sad that what people desire these days are cute character designs, with no story, hardly any background or lore whatsoever. I think general appreciation of how characters are written has nosedived in the last couple of years.

>My favorite type of anime are spokons where the power of friendship and teamwork win out. But even those ordinary characters and their conflicts felt more interesting than anything Hoyoverse makes.

Gacha writing is the epitome of vapid. Everybody just wants a blank slate they can project whatever they want onto.

 No.13545

Code Geass director Goro Taniguchi says Japan’s increasingly “sanitized” society is changing anime and even pushing creative talent out of the industry
>Looking back on the rise of the internet and anonymous online communities such as 2channel (the Japanese equivalent of 4chan), Taniguchi noted that “unprecedented levels of malice” started flowing into production environments during this stage, placing increasing pressure on creators. However, he argues that one of the industry’s greatest current challenges is the emergence of what sociologist Toshio Okada has called a “white society” in Japan. Note that this term does not carry any racial implications, but rather refers to a highly transparent and “sanitized” society shaped by the proliferation of smartphones and social media. The theory proposes that, with Japanese society becoming more peaceful and interconnected, behaviors seen as aggressive, disruptive, or unconventional become increasingly discouraged, while (surface-level) social harmony and cleanliness are prioritized.
>“I see this ‘white society’ as a phenomenon where all Japanese people are, in a way, becoming more like Kyoto residents,” Taniguchi explained, referencing a well-known Japanese stereotype about Kyoto people being extremely roundabout in communicating negative sentiments, prioritizing decorum. “Let’s not do anything unusual, let’s read the room, avoid open confrontation, and show respect to the people sharing the same space.” Interestingly, the director points out that many protagonists in recent ‘narou-kei‘ (isekai-style) stories fit this pattern. Coincidentally big publishers like Kadokawa have acknowledged they’ve been relying too much on this genre as of late.

 No.13546

>>13545
>Taniguchi believes this “sanitization” of Japanese society has affected not only anime’s themes and characters, but also the structure of production. The proliferation of one-cour anime series (12 to 13 episodes) helped mature the industry’s production committee system, but at the same time, it weakened the traditional model of apprentice animators learning from their masters, paralyzing the process of nurturing new talent. He also argued that the growing influence of original authors (i.e., the manga or light novel authors behind anime adaptations) and rights holders over anime has complicated the role of anime directors, making it increasingly difficult for productions to establish any clear creative direction.
>According to Taniguchi, producers increasingly favor staff members who are easy to manage and who can reproduce source material at an acceptable level without introducing strong creative ideas of their own. As a result, the more ambitious creators gradually find themselves receiving less work, and eventually even leave the industry, he says. Taniguchi characterizes the current period of anime evolution as an era of “prioritizing profits at the expense of creative vision.”
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/code-geass-director-goro-taniguchi-says-japans-increasingly-sanitized-society-is-changing-anime-and-even-pushing-creative-talent-out-of-the-industry
I think it will mean fewer instances of random homo in non-BL anime, bland adaptations of any property, no 'problematic' relationships…



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 No.2359[Reply]

how the fuck do people ship genshin, enstars or any other gacha characters? they're barely characters, just money generating, 1-dimensional pieces of cardboard. i've never been able to get attached to any.
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 No.13453

>>2359
>>2361
Honestly, I used to be into FGO Karna/Arjuna just because I think brother incest is hot.

 No.13454

>>13451
I thought he and Phainon would be the main fujo ship push because they're supposed to be KevinSu expies (maybe not so much directly betweeen Anaxa and Su). Sad he got shafted for a hetship

 No.13458

>>13454
Mihoyo fans have the media literacy of toddlers and the tolerance for pairings that aren't safe and normal comparable to IBS.

If two characters aren't literally the same age (visibly) with nearly the exact same height, they lose it. I know, it's stupid for hsr because the vast majority of the cast are chinese cultivators when it comes to aging. But people will put 10 disclaimers on something as NOT A SHIP when it's just Mydei and Cipher existing in the same space.



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 No.541[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Aydens are currently the biggest internal cancer in BL spaces, outsiders hate us that's a given but Aydens participate and "contribute" to our fandoms, with pussyboys, male characters with mastectomy scars and PIV sex between characters that are biological males and ruin it
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 No.13375

>>13299
>If there's one thing I learned from this it's that no matter how much Aidens shit up our fandoms, they make themselves and each other miserable by being alive and we can win by just being well-adjusted people who enjoy our BL.
This. The best way to win is to not play at all. I just ignore these people and don't interact ever.

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It baffled me whenever I stumbled to Twitter, seeing woketard Aidens hc male characters into troons, including the ones getting butthurt over FGO and historical d'Eon as a femboy.

He's not even troon, just a guy with hormonal problem crossdressing for work

 No.13387

>>13386

It's likely the creator of historical femboy just trolling but woke troons seethed, making big deal of it.



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 No.4327[Reply]

A few hours ago, Aniwave (9anime) and Anix were shut down, it seems like it was hit by a DMCA claim. These were big sites that hosted thousands of different animes. Companies seem to be going hard against piracy sites and it makes me wonder if they'll go for manga next.
Do you use piracy or do you prefer paid services? Do you think the potential death of easily accessible piracy will be a big issue? Is the solution teaching others to torrent?

Source: https://torrentfreak.com/ace-goes-after-fmovies-sister-site-successors-240824/
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 No.13204

>>12983
I prefer physical, but many BL manga are digital-only. Worse, some are stuck on online manga reading sites, with no way to download them.

 No.13208

>>13204
Yeah I regret making >>12983 that post ignore it please. No one is paid good enough to be able to start a collection.

 No.13369

>Alleged Operator of Webtoon Piracy Website Newtoki Extradited From Japan to S. Korea
>The development follows the recent shutdown of Newtoki and its affiliated platforms, including Manatoki (for Japanese manga) and Booktoki (for web novels). The sites ceased operations in late April amid increasing regulatory pressure. The timing of the closure — shortly before the implementation of South Korea's emergency site-blocking system on May 11 — had already signaled mounting enforcement efforts.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2026-06-12/alleged-operator-of-webtoon-piracy-website-newtoki-extradited-from-japan-to-s-korea/.238443



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 No.2217[Reply]

Do they exist?
Have you ever met one, in real life or online?
What do you think about them, actually and theoretically?
Do you think any use fujochan?
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 No.13225

>>13224
This is why I never liked shotafags, you give them an inch and they will use it to push you out of your own space

 No.13227

>>13140
I don't know why but gay guys on 4chan cannot stop blogging about their personal lives while posting porn. Like you can open a gay furry porn thread on /trash/ and they'll be discussing their taxes and what to buy mom for her birthday.

>>13224
Is this the same /vp/ guy who bugged girls for nudes on discord? He can't claim credit for /cm/ not having any assigned mods - that was the case for at least a decade before the no-girls-allowed Pokeboy threads moved over.

 No.13229

>>13227
>I don't know why but gay guys on 4chan cannot stop blogging about their personal lives while posting porn
The only explanation I can think of for this is that they don't have many other people to connect with, so they try to bond with anons who like the same porn they do because they're that lonely.



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 No.5838[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

So this has been confirmed by all my Chinese mutuals, who have told me how hopeless things have become there and it's only getting worse. In 2014 obscenity laws were passed in China that mainly targeted mainstream porn sites, but gay content was also included and targeted, forcing Chinese BL authors to use more 'flowery language' if they were writing something intended for an 'audience' in public, but on foreign sites (Western but mostly Taiwanese) they could be more free, still it was gradually building up to this, starting from 2022(according to my mutuals) the underground sites were removed en-masse, now the Chinese government even forces foreign companies to meet their standards. If you are a Chinese citizen who even writes anything about gay romance, you will go to jail for it

Here's the article for more information
https://www.whatsonweibo.com/the-price-of-writing-smut-inside-chinas-crackdown-on-erotic-fiction/
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 No.12749

>>12736
This is the same shit as when they banned historical court dramas from being too lavish. They don't want people in lower social status to admire wealth and luxury, because what if these women stop working on conveyor belts doing intricate manual tasks.

 No.12752

>>12739
That's quite naive. The only reason they haven't banned underground media yet is because they are unaware of it. As soon as they learn about it, they will ban it as well.

 No.12753

>>12736
Moids will never stop being mad at women's hobbies and fantasies.



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 No.2521[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Discuss the current state of modern fandoms with the anti/pro discourse.
>What is pro/anti discourse?
Pro and anti refers to two stands in current fandom culture of what is acceptable or not to show in fiction. Anti is someone who is against anything that can be considered problematic (incest, age gaps, abuse,etc) and pro is someone who is in favour of anything problematic. But the labels can usually be something bigger, like discourse with headcanons, whitewashing, etc etc… The problematic things are just the more common ones.
>Where do these discourses usually take place?
Usually on places like Twitter, Tumblr and Ao3, but they can also be seen in other places like Discord servers, TikTok and so on.
>Are there any reads about this?
Here's a few, feel free to post more that you find!
https://note.com/orangiah/n/n437e262ce2ce (Japanese artist explaining the whole anti/pro thing)
https://www.themarysue.com/fandom-has-a-purity-culture-problem/ (general article talking of purity culture in fandom spaces)
https://www.cbr.com/cartoon-fandom-has-a-puritanism-problem/ (article about puritanism as well as a debunk in another article saying children's media has a porn problem)

Last thread
https://archive.is/9WPtF
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 No.12660

>>12643
Idk I think it's disgusting people are sexualizing her because the game looks so realistic it crosses a bit of a line for me. Like don't have an issue with lolisho, but I do think you're gross if you like this girl like that.

 No.12662

>>12660
Ayrt and I agree with you on that, she's way too realistic. I just think a lot of people are exaggerating.

 No.12665

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>>12643
>>12660
Her character design still has an edge of 'anime' that blurs the line a bit, but as we get more realistic graphics it becomes harder to argue. The original tweet is being insane about it though. Imagine equating someone expressing wonder about a new experience to nothing more than a fetish. If you can accuse something of 'bar for bar' being that content, then you've clearly exposed yourself to quite a bit of it.



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 No.11350[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post cringy anti-fujo takes to laugh at or discuss

Old thread >>8898
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 No.12457

>>12385
Are you stupid, every other black woman I know is either studying or used to study korean, no one dick rides their culture the way black women do, be real

 No.12459

>>12457
that anon is probably stuck in the 90s where blacks and koreans had beef with each other.

 No.12460

>>12459
I think it depends where you are, but there's still some hostility between asian and black populations in the US. Hate crime statistics back this up.

>>12453
I feel bad for them sometimes but then its like… do they really think their nasty boyfriends think they're men? Sis! He's with you because you're easy. Stop clogging up my search results with hetslop!



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 No.4266[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A thread for ships that often get brought up as 'super gay' or are at least popular that you never got the vibe for, doesn't even have to be ships you dislike just ones that you never really got.

Starting off
>Only scene I thought was fujo was the rain scene with the foot polishing
>And it's not even in the manga
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 No.12455

>>12454
This is THE tourist ship.

 No.12456

>>12455
Not into Dungeon Meshi, but isn't there a thousand more interesting problematic ships? even het ones like Laios and his sister? and the brown dude x elf like you said?

 No.12458

>>12456
thats exactly why this ship is so popular, especially among western fans. Its the relatively least problematic ship of them all, second only to LaiosXMarchille which they condemn because they insist Marcille is a lesbian (shes not). Even Toudencest is better than Labru. I tried to get into it during my read and i just couldnt.



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