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 No.3208[View All]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and Idolmaster, fujo favorites dominated the charts.

What happened between 2015 and now? The trend of women (and by extension fujoshi) disappearing from Comiket hasn't gone unnoticed. But it's not as if women are making less doujin, it's that women are flocking to non-Comiket conventions - namely those hosted by the agency AkaBooBoo like Super Comic City. On the other hand, I feel like there is a slump in fujo activity because it's been a while since we've had a fleet of fujo powerhouses trending at the same time (compared to 2015). The mid-2010s wasa good time to be a fujoshi.
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 No.6690

I think Tiger and Bunny was the only series I ever liked that made it into the top 10 of AO3 unless Jojo made once, I am not sure but I think not.

 No.6691

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>>4827
>Not sure why though seems like a random choice
the reason is cause obi-wan and anakin are often written with the equivalent of an oedipal relationship, like I was into star-wars for a while and I've never seen a male be referred to as a milf as many times as I've seen with obi-wan

 No.6698

>>6691
I don't really see the oedipal vibe, mentor/pupil yes, but while Anakin is a rebellious teen and Obi-wan could be viewed as a frustrated parent they do come off more like brothers than anything else especially in the opening to the second film where they are having a playful time together. Thanks for the reply though.

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>>6698
I'm not saying that's what they are like in canon, but that's how a section of shippers perceive them and If you go through the #obikin tag, a good chunk of the posts will be related to turning obi-wan into a "milf"

 No.6720

>>6718
Never post boobi-wan kanobi again please.

 No.6721

>>6720
lol, great name.

>>6718
Absolutely bizarre fan perception. I don't mind huge pecs like the last one, but the moobs are bit much.

 No.7982

>https://www.akaboo.jp/guide/item/p0075.html
Akaboo posted Valentine Rose FES 2026 cp (couples) voting results

 No.7997

>>6631
>Barty Crouch x Evan Rosier
>Marlene McKinnon x Dorcas Meadowes
Why… They were nobodies. Was it a meme ship for some challenge or something?

 No.7999

>>7997
"Marauder's fandom" is its own separate beast at this point. It is a headcanon playground/circlejerk.
>>7982
Continually surprised at the staying power of Demon Slayer. I bounced off of it so it's hard for me to accept that it apparently has fujo appeal.

 No.8000

>>7999
It's a goldmine if you like mentor/kouhai or brocest type of ships. There's also some good villain/hero and villain/villain material, but you have to enjoy a certain level of tragedy or fixit AUs.

 No.8869

>>3208
>>3209
A lot of bigger franchises like touhou,Idolm@ster,Uma,Pokemon and Fate have their own doujin cons and Recently,I see many artists going there instead of comiket since it's less of a pain to plan

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a sequel to Samurai Troopers just announced and it got twitter talking a about 90s doujin/fujo culture and it's interesting to see the Comiket stats from back then.

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>>8965
also lol CLAMP did both doujin (left) and official art (right) back in the day.

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>>8965
Apparently it's the historical Comiket joseimuke #1, beating even Price of Tennis (though obviously artists scattered to more and more small events over time)
https://x.com/no_watch_no/status/1932792480191427066

 No.9181

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>>8965
Has anybody scanned these ancient doujin?

 No.9185

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this thread got me into a rabbit hole. i can see why the fujo ancestors loved this series

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 No.9187

Where can I read old doujin scans online? Raws are fine. This thread makes me wanna get back into Saint Seiya and other IP

 No.9209

>>9186
Oh wow Ronin Warriors! I kinda remember it being on Toonami, but I dont remember watching it. Maybe I was busy being obsessed over another show like Gundam Wing?

 No.9262

>>9187
http://b-para.co
might have some…

 No.10463

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>>9185
>>9186
I wonder whether the sequel will generate any fujo following at all..

 No.10465

>>9187
https://www.arigatomina.com/downloads/djs/index.html
Decent collection, classically selective curator.

 No.11427

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Top Akaboo doujin genres (=fandoms/categories) from 2025, separated by individual events. Note that a lot of mid-popular genres are left out of the ranking because the most popular categories are represented multiple times across different events. Either way, Nintama supremacy.

 No.11445

>>11427
>Note that a lot of mid-popular genres are left out of the ranking because the most popular categories are represented multiple times across different events
Yes, it tells me nothing.

 No.11477

>>10463
This isn't getting a simulcast so forget any fujo following in the West since people don't watch anything unless it's easily accessible on streaming now.

 No.11483

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Top 100 ships on AO3 for 2025

 No.11484

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>>11483
Biggest fandoms and M/M ships on Chinese AO3 (compiled by https://www.douban.com/group/topic/357710877)

 No.11485

>>11483
>>11484
holy shit arzu/nawfal even made it on the top ao3 overall though

 No.11487

>>11483
>>11484
Fuck yes ArzuxNawfal! I'm so proud of my boys!

 No.11488

>>11483
So many new entries for series I've never even heard of! I still think 9-1-1 consistently topping the charts is funny considering I don't know any fans. The only things I'm actually into shipping-wise on this list are Batman, Harry Potter, and 100 Line.

>>11484
Why is China so into Formula 1? Also I guess I'm going to watch Nezha now.

 No.11489

>>11483
seeing that fuckass Regulus Black/James Potter ship up at number 10 is so annoying. why the hell is that even a thing? James/Severus makes more sense than it!

 No.11492

>>11488
You'll really like Nezha, anon. Make sure to watch both too so you can see Ao Bing's sexy father

 No.11493

>>11483
>Roblox being in the list at all
What

 No.11494

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>>11493
I feel so old right now.

 No.11495

>>11483
>race
>Roma
They get more and more retarded with each year.

 No.11498

>>11484
The formula 1 RPS is one hell of a jumpscare for me. On a less cursed note I've seen Where Winds Meet a bunch lately so I wonder if I should check it out.

 No.11499

>>11498
Where winds meet is a good game that I would recommend to play but from what I've seen so far ship fuel is almost non-existent.

 No.11502

>>11495
That's bound to happen given the primary reason the statistics project exists to begin with is because the person running it is a scold about the presence of race and f/f in fanfic.

 No.11503

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>>11483
AO3 is most popular with English and Chinese fandom women, so this list makes sense. There's more het than expected and stuff like all of the LADS y/n fics should really be counted as het even if it's technically open as whatever. The focus on race makes me kek. I'm proud of KPDH for being so organically popular as an animationfag even though I'm not in the fandom. Glad the BKDK, NSN, Drarry, Skk, and Jayce/Viktor juggernauts are still going strong.

Idk how himes can complain about this either when they have plenty to eat with KPDH, CaitVi, Wednesday, Alien Stage, and Yellowjackets for ~toxic yuri~. Even if it's not as much as male focused content, wouldn't you want quality over quantity? at least that's what I want in my fem slash

>>11498
Also how do you even get into Formula 1 racing to begin with? Sports are so boring. But I love it when a random women older than 30 with multiple RPS fics writes for my fandom because they write THE BEST FUCKING FICS! I think it's the life experience and observing real people and probably interacting with society through watching sports. I love you Hockey and Formula 1 RPS fags. Muah muah muah

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https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2026-01-05/dr-stone-boichi-other-artists-stop-posting-art-on-x/.232621
>Following the rollout of a new AI image-editing option by X (formerly Twitter), manga illustrator Mu-jik Park (pen name Boichi) announced on December 25 that he will not post images on the social media platform for the foreseeable future. In his post Boichi stated, “For the time being, I will pause the publication of my comics and illustrations on X.” The illustrator clarified he does not fear AI: “I believe in its future and the possibilities it may bring.” However, Boichi was clear that he does not want his work used for AI training or “exploited without my consent or proper compensation.”
>Mokumokuren, creator of The Summer Hikaru Died, has also quietly reduced the number of art they post on X since December 25. Although the creator has not stopped posting illustrations on X, they have posted some art pieces only on their Bluesky account following X's implantation of its new image-editing feature. (Mokumokuren still posts announcements of releases with accompanying images on X.)
>The legality of X's new AI image-editing feature is still up in the air. X currently has a clause in its terms of service allowing for artist, companies, and other entities to report copyright infringement. The clause states, “If you believe that your Content has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, please report this by visiting our Copyright reporting form (https://help.x.com/forms/ipi) or contacting our designated copyright agent at [lists address].”
>ANN reached out to copyright lawyer Grant Smith regarding how X's AI image-editing feature could infringe on the copyrights and trademarks of artists, companies, and other entities. Smith said:
>That's a big IP infringement issue but the courts haven't had much time to make case decisions on the issues. You have one major case with the Game of Thrones being used at an AI base for when it [creates] content for writers. Words, styles, and formats from the books are used in violation of copyright laws. The case was found in favor of the author. But this is just the start. The issue is the same for artists and their work. The AI rendering is a derivative of the work and would be likely violation copyright rights of the artists. More cases need to be brought and decided for the law to cement itself.

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 No.11553

>>11531
It's such an ill thought out feature, not just for copyright infringement but also for illicit modifications to real people's photos.

I've already seen several artists I like migrate off the platform. While I've always championed people use Pixiv more I noticed one artist switched exclusively to Lofter which I just can't access. Shame. I wonder if this will affect official publishers and brands as well.

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>>11553
>people move from Pixiv to Twitter because 'muh unauthorised use of art in a contest'
>much worse rights infringement comes to Twitter
>Pixiv introduces more rules to tackle AI copycats and crawlers
Got what they deserved kek. The Japanese are so naive to trust platforms that are not their home-grown.

 No.11556

>>11502
The insistence on ethnicity specifically is so weird to me because if you account for presence of ethnically diverse characters, the numbers clearly add up. Just look at anime. Are people less racist just because a popular show has an entire Asian cast? Or look at harry potter. Are people racist because the vast majority of a piece of media they like has a majority white cast?
Like at least with gender there is for sure a prevalence of m/m (I don't think there's any issue with that either, it is what it is, who tf cares), but with race it's clearly an issue of proportion of characters from different ethnicities in different source materials. If they wanna track it as data then cool, but I just don't know how you could even get mad about it in fandom even compared to the way people complaint about lack of f/f. It's just completely different lol.

 No.11558

>>11556
Reminds me of the Garnet arguing. As to what race is a space rock projection

Is she black? No. Her voice actress is. Her skin is the color of garnet. But people draw her brown. She's not brown. She's two people made into one person. One is blue, the other is red. People argued she's black coded. Which turned into more arguing.

 No.11559

>>11556
They want to single out fujos and only fujos as "racist bitches obsessed with white men" even though the person who makes this stats list is also white and I don't see them writing any black characters.

It's flawed because obviously the popularity of black celebrities or black sitcoms didn't make people less racist, and the popularity of Asian media doesn't make people less racist either. So why treat fanfic like this big deal? They never do this to male fans and we know why, it's because your average man in fandom will tell them to shut the fuck up. Fujos need to be meaner.

 No.11567

>>11483
why did they have to mention the race of the characters?

 No.11598

>>11567
Yanks obsessed with identity politics

 No.11599

>>11567
I can see the logic when it comes to original works of art like tv shows, published lit and the likes, but it's insane to expect fanfic authors to care about it when they're working with established characters. And it's even more weird because fanfic writers and fan artists have the ability to change the pre-established character to any race as long as they stick to the main physical and character traits and EVEN then, let's be honest, a lot of fanwork creators often dress what is essentially their OCs in the skins/names of established characters so they can honestly just do whatever they want–that's what makes those lists so flawed as well.

 No.11755

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2026-01-24/south-korea-new-ai-law-raises-questions-for-webtoon-creators-platforms/.233383
>For webtoon creators, the most immediate issue is AI transparency. Under the law, companies that develop or provide AI models and services must clearly disclose AI-generated content. This includes a watermark requirement for generative AI outputs, with stricter visible labeling for deepfake-style content. For formats like webtoons and animation, non-visible, machine-readable watermarks are allowed, easing concerns about disrupting the reading and viewing experience. However, creators still worry about how broadly “AI-generated” content is defined.
>The law does not regulate individual users who simply use AI tools, but it does apply to platforms and companies that offer AI-powered creation tools or distribute AI-generated works. Major webtoon platforms that operate in Korea or offer services to Korean users may need to adjust workflows, disclosure systems, and UI notices when AI is involved in production.
When will Japan follow?



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