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A board for meta-discussion of BL and fujoshi.

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 No.12715[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Previous thread:
>>10865

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.
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 No.13310

>>13308
I've realized most ppl have horrible taste when I saw that Sora x Kairi is more popular than Yuna x Tidus.

 No.13312

>>13300
This is a strawman nonna, no one expects the cast to be all men (and it's much rarer to see women being as schizo as moids who hate male characters), every gacha space tells women to be okay with games barely putting efforts into male characters, let alone them having actual fujobait. What nonnas don't like is people trying to force female characters into joseimuke games because fujos aren't allowed to have anything. The games you mentioned being dogshit with gameplay is why they're not getting any new fans. If it's fanfic people want, there are no gacha games that have good fic except maybe Hoyo slop just because it's so big.

 No.13314

>>13308
A lot of it is jealousy because a lot of them also are only interested in female characters if she can be shipped with a male character. That's why more generic "every girl" type of female characters are more popular than female characters who are actual villains or something. Shounen girls like Sakura and Hinata are easier for them to say "this is literally me!" which is why they act like it's cucking them to not ship the canon het pairings. The pairing doesn't even have to be canon and they'll still say it's misogyny to not write fanfics for it, like how Gojohime shippers act in the JJK fandom. They're jealous that fujos are so passionate about their ships. The irony for them to call fujos "cock obsessed" when they're either yumes or self insert onto a female character. I don't care if people want to self insert on shipping, but then stop saying its misogyny for fujos to ship your husbando in M/M.


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 No.429[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I believe we need containment thread for NOTP posting.
Post any NOTP that you fucking hate the reason can be anything canon, position, fans, etc. be petty as you want.
feel free to bash them or venting about it.
Dont visit this thread if you cant stand seeing your favorite ship get dunked.
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 No.13172

>>13168
oh my god i need to read the novels

 No.13181

>>13168
Damn, I remember reading one of the novels and thinking it was surprisingly gay but what the hell is this lmao???
I really love these two, shipping or not.

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>>13172
>>13181
yeah the books go hard for the ship, i have many more but its difficult to sift throughj


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 No.11021[Reply]

Old or new, post any stupid yaoi memes you got

Old thread >>79
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 No.9888[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Ah shit, I hate when I reply to a thread that is past bump limit.
Shit you Hate 3.0, post stuff that makes you unreasonable enraged.

Prior thread >>4907
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 No.13271

>>13257
No hate to your preferences but that dude barely looks middle aged by anime standards. For me 'ugly old men' is more like Conclave fandom.
When people online say old man yaoi they're usually referring to 30 year old anime dudes or immortals anyway. I only respect it if they're talking about actual ojisans.
>>13261
>the ugly/fat/hairy thing is mostly performative
Enough western artists choose to turn characters who are not like this canonically into these things in their art that I don't doubt it's genuinely their kink, especially when fat is involved.
But overall maybe I'm not online enough to be aware of this problem you guys are talking about because you're making it sound like there's some epidemic of fujos lusting after hentai ugly bastard level old men or something? Which, lol if true. Constant age gap discourse also makes old men 'safer' to hornypost about and that leads to people exaggerating for the memes, probably.

 No.13276

>>13271
>No hate to your preferences but that dude barely looks middle aged by anime standards.
I need to give more context. This manga is about three different pairings. The one on the cover is the first pairing. The second pairing is about two young salarymen who are in a long distance relationship and visit each other and it was my favorite pairing. The third one is the one about the hideous hairy guy who's insecure about it, and that chapter made me roll my eyes when reading it. I used this manga as an example for hairy characters in BL manga in particular because the characters weren't old in this one.

>I only respect it if they're talking about actual ojisans
That's rare isn't it? The most common old guys in original BL seem to all be based on Mads Mikkelsen for some reason, he's too popular so you have stories in Japan with that one random white middle aged or old man who suspiciously look like Mads kek. It was too much for me in Jealousy, I couldn't unsee it and never finished the manga anyway because at the time I didn't find all the chapters and he kept ruining scenes anytime he showed up.

 No.13307

>>13271
>Enough western artists choose to turn characters who are not like this canonically into these things in their art that I don't doubt it's genuinely their kink, especially when fat is involved.
As a fat fetishist I do not for a second believe the ones I've encountered in my fandoms actually are into it when they do this. The way they choose to draw it and what they do with it doesn't fetishize anything or even attempt to make it appealing. It gives me so much dissonance when I see them trying to hype up a fat version of a character who I would never choose to do it to, and not with the distribution they chose either. I have a hard time admitting to my fetishes and letting them loose around other people to begin with. I guarantee if I let those people know they'd send me nothing but horrors that completely misunderstand everything. I just don't know how to explain it but they're practically aliens. They also never settle for just one modification, they can't just make a character fat. They have to make him fat, with bruised eyelids, five or more piercings, brown skin, and constant references to vaping or bongs. Then throw them in a hot pink crop top with inexplicable tears in it and some crocs. Yeuikes.

I've been in fandoms for "old man yaoi" and I guess the main difference is people don't reference the fact it's "old man yaoi" much or spend all their time joking about what they're doing. People who are actually into older characters get busy writing about how they specifically want the old man to get ruined rather than going "look at us teehee aren't we deviant". Twitter has a very strange culture of peripheral fujoshi who don't do any fujoshi activities in public view, they just joke about their identity being that of a fujoshi. They're like the "anime fans" where you're not really sure what anime they're a big fan of because they only retweet surface level jokes about commonly known series. I think we should treat them the same and brush it off as casuals who talk more than they think or do.


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 No.541[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Aydens are currently the biggest internal cancer in BL spaces, outsiders hate us that's a given but Aydens participate and "contribute" to our fandoms, with pussyboys, male characters with mastectomy scars and PIV sex between characters that are biological males and ruin it
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 No.13299

>>12816
Two callout google docs came out recently in one of my fandoms about someone who did the ~true gay male understanding of this character~ thing but I always figured it was an actual gay man because I'm used to TiFs openly displaying a trans flag in their name or bio and this one didn't. But now it turns out it was not a woman-hating gay man but a manipulative woman-hating bpd trainwreck of a woman larping as a man who hilariously enough would call her 'transmasc nonbinary' partner a woman multiple times but then chimp out and suicide-bait when misgendered herself. If there's one thing I learned from this it's that no matter how much Aidens shit up our fandoms, they make themselves and each other miserable by being alive and we can win by just being well-adjusted people who enjoy our BL.

 No.13301

>>13299
I didn't need the flags–cis gays only play roe/hroth/highlanders lol.

 No.13305

>>13299
>transmasc nonbinary partner
TIF/TIF relationships wherein they're both larping as gay yaoiz was really common when I used Tumblr (bc everyone there was a 15 year old edating kinnie), I'm surprised it's still a thing now. Unless they're edaters too, then that makes sense. I always assume those types aren't actually attracted to each other because both parties are painfully heterosexual, it's just that they can't date irl because of autismo. Plus most straight guys irl have no interest in roleplaying Soukoku so they have to settle for other gaydens.


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 No.3208[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Thread for meta-commentary on trends in the fujoshphere, including but not limited to:
>The recent dearth of fujo-friendly IPs and the overall decline of female-targeted series
>Observations and trends about fujo fan activities
>Differences in fan culture between Japanese fujos, Korean/Chinese fujos, Western fujos and the rest of the world
>Predictions or theories about the BL industry
This is not a thread for pro/anti discourse (>>2521) or complaining about the genderspecial infestation (>>541) - threads for those topics already exist.

I was looking at the stats for Comiket 103 and I couldn't help but notice a lack of fujo presence. Picrel is a list of the genre codes and the number of registered circles under them. The genre code is a category that each circle choose upon registration; they can be dedicated to a single franchise (eg 234 Touhou, 331 Kantai Collection, 335 Uma Musume, 222 VTubers) or encompass an entire category (eg 315 Romance, Social games for women which is where games like Ensemble Stars and Twisted Wonderland would fall). Some of them like 600 Reviews/Information or 611 Railways/Travel aren't related to manga/anime at all.

It's obvious that Blue Archive and VTubers swept this Comiket, with mainstays like Kantai Collection, Uma Musume, Idolmaster and Type-Moon ranking high. In other words, all franchises for men. On the other hand, the fujo mainstays like Tiger and Bunny and Touken Ranbu look puny in comparison. Yuri on Ice is a certified fujo classic but it lost its custom genre code last Comiket.

In comparison, the other picrel is a ranking of the most popular series from C89 which was winter 2015. The red bars are female-dominated genres, the blue are male and purple are unisex. From top to bottom: 1) KanColle 2) Touken Ranbu 3) Touhou 4) Idolmaster 5) Haikyuu 6) Kuroko no Basuke 7) Yowamushi Pedal 8) Love Live 9) Tiger and Bunny 10) Attack on Titan 11) Vocaloid 12) Fate series 13) Hetalia 14) Free 15) Blood Blockade Battlefront 16) Splatoon. This was the heyday of Touken Ranbu - it gave juggernauts like Touhou and IM#S a run for their money - and outside obligatory mainstays like KanColle and IdolmastPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.12722

>>12712
yoi was popular in Japan too lol. also I know you’re mainly talking about lasting popularity but popularity is always relative. you name undertale as an example but there are a surprising amount of people who have never even heard of it yet of course know about mario or donkey kong. this of course doesn’t mean that undertale isn’t popular. you have to take niches and audience categories (age, sex, country) in account.

 No.12763

>>12700
Especially Hoyoverse. But the problem is there's no new anime that fills that long running speculative niche for fujos anymore. I get wanting to be into something ongoing and popular since it's an easy way to find people, and getting into an older show means you'll have less people to talk to.
The reason I hate Hoyoverse is because they treat fujos like shit and only give the barest of crumbs because they know fujos don't need much, while they prioritize their incel audience. Gacha games are so bad now that the bare minimum Hoyoverse does is considered a lot, and they don't even know about the better yaoi dyanmics in other games since those games are either gatekept to Japan or admittedly have shit gameplay that won't pull new players. But I hate Hoyoverse because they play it so safe with all their characters that it's hard for me to like them. The ships also stagnate into one or two simple tropes because Hoyoverse sucks at developing their male characters. It's all potential and hype but they never deliver on any of it. I'm not expecting their games to be edgy and depressing, I'm not a grimdarkfag. My favorite type of anime are spokons where the power of friendship and teamwork win out. But even those ordinary characters and their conflicts felt more interesting than anything Hoyoverse makes. I dunno. I feel like it's a case of people sticking to only what they know which is the more popular shit and everyone just likes basic simple junk food tropes because most media doesn't have the time or space to develop complex dynamics anymore. It all feels like a corporate suit looking at popular tropes than actually trying to write dynamic characters first and then the shipping naturally emerges from that.

 No.13236

>>12763
>Gacha games are so bad now that the bare minimum Hoyoverse does is considered a lot
It's kind of sad that what people desire these days are cute character designs, with no story, hardly any background or lore whatsoever. I think general appreciation of how characters are written has nosedived in the last couple of years.

>My favorite type of anime are spokons where the power of friendship and teamwork win out. But even those ordinary characters and their conflicts felt more interesting than anything Hoyoverse makes.
Gacha writing is the epitome of vapid. Everybody just wants a blank slate they can project whatever they want onto.


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 No.2217[Reply]

Do they exist?
Have you ever met one, in real life or online?
What do you think about them, actually and theoretically?
Do you think any use fujochan?
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 No.13225

>>13224
This is why I never liked shotafags, you give them an inch and they will use it to push you out of your own space

 No.13227

>>13140
I don't know why but gay guys on 4chan cannot stop blogging about their personal lives while posting porn. Like you can open a gay furry porn thread on /trash/ and they'll be discussing their taxes and what to buy mom for her birthday.

>>13224
Is this the same /vp/ guy who bugged girls for nudes on discord? He can't claim credit for /cm/ not having any assigned mods - that was the case for at least a decade before the no-girls-allowed Pokeboy threads moved over.

 No.13229

>>13227
>I don't know why but gay guys on 4chan cannot stop blogging about their personal lives while posting porn
The only explanation I can think of for this is that they don't have many other people to connect with, so they try to bond with anons who like the same porn they do because they're that lonely.


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 No.9438[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What are some unpopular opinions you have as a fujoshi?
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 No.13207

>>12980
I'm the anon who wrote that and, well, I tried to "practice what I preach" so to speak and uhm. I have less disposable income than I thought I did. I think it's alright to pirate as long as in the future you buy merch or give a tip to the artist to compensate.

 No.13210

>>13207
>and uhm. I have less disposable income than I thought I did.
This is cute lmao. When I was young I was paying $30 for a VHS with 3 (sometimes 4!) episodes per tape so when piracy is concerned I feel like anime got its pound of flesh out of me a long time ago. These days I try to meet it in the middle if the option is available by checking out manga through the Libby (library app) instead of pirating it.

I think being in fandom for so long has kind of twisted my mind to think of BL as 100% gift economy type stuff when in fact original BL is a product that is malleable by demand, so I feel a little guilty that my first reaction to "you should buy BL to support it" is to recoil lol.
>>12993
There's also a bit of this mixed into my logic. JP creators get their bag with JP fans. Overseas success is incidental.

 No.13213

>>13207
It's okay nonna. As someone who pirates stuff regularly, if I like it enough I like to support the creators in some way. But I've got a limited amount of money and physical space so I try to save it for the stuff I really like. There's something special about having a shelf of DVDs/books/etc. and it's all stuff you already love rather than things you bought on a whim and regret buying.


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A few hours ago, Aniwave (9anime) and Anix were shut down, it seems like it was hit by a DMCA claim. These were big sites that hosted thousands of different animes. Companies seem to be going hard against piracy sites and it makes me wonder if they'll go for manga next.
Do you use piracy or do you prefer paid services? Do you think the potential death of easily accessible piracy will be a big issue? Is the solution teaching others to torrent?

Source: https://torrentfreak.com/ace-goes-after-fmovies-sister-site-successors-240824/
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Reminder: Physical mangas and CDs

 No.13204

>>12983
I prefer physical, but many BL manga are digital-only. Worse, some are stuck on online manga reading sites, with no way to download them.

 No.13208

>>13204
Yeah I regret making >>12983 that post ignore it please. No one is paid good enough to be able to start a collection.


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