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A board for meta-discussion of BL and fujoshi.


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 No.6255[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post cringy anti-fujos takes to laugh at or even discuss.

Old thread >>4731
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 No.8551

>>8550
Athena will never be worse than AA6 so honestly it could have been worse for her. Ironically I thought her case in AA6 was a lot more fun than the rest of the game. If she was the only playable character in AA5 I think she would have been a lot more popular depending on how the story would have been written.

 No.8552

>>8550
I like Athena too, even with the unpopularity she is generally well liked by everyone, I think this is yet another case of yumes finding a fandom that was dominated by fujos for years and trying to take it over by guilt tripping (and failing)
Same happened with Kingdom hearts and Clamp.

 No.8553

>>8550
I don't find Athena as interesting as the main guys because I feel like she's written in the same way that every other quirky Ace attorney teen girl is except instead of an assistant she's technically a lawyer. Though I did notice that she's often left out in merch and that's unfortunate. I guess that's more proof of her lack of popularity.
>>8551
>Ironically I thought her case in AA6 was a lot more fun than the rest of the game.
Yeah same. I never really gave a shit about the main political drama plot so for me it was a plus that her case was separate from it



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 No.7969[Reply]

How do Japanese events work? Inspired due to quality content posted by nonas in the Refantazio thread.

>How do events work?


>What is your experience with Japanese doujinshi events?
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 No.7975

We already have a similar thread. I won't repost everything Ii said there because that would be too long and it would take too much time because of the 5 minutes delay between posts so here's my experience from last year: https://fujochan.org/bl/res/3330.html#q3500

tldr; I went to an akaboo event at the end of June during my trip called June Bride Fes, I only bought satosugu doujinshi because other pairings I like are too niche and didn't have artists/doujinshi there or because I didn't like the doujinshi sold there. I also bought some doujinshi in Mandarake in Ikebukuro and Akihabara. The event didn't last for a very long time, you have to be as strategic as possible if you're interested in a lot of different artists, the venue is pretty big and there's some schizo every year according to Japanese twitter users who screams very loudly and look up skirts and dresses so be careful. I heard her from far away at some point but didn't see her so I was wondering if I was imagining things until I saw a bunch of women saying she needs to be banned once and for all. Take snacks, a bottle of water and a large and empty tote bag with you to avoid buying things right there. Download a map of the venue with information on circles and fandoms in advance to make sure you know where to go first. And don't cosplay, it's only allowed in specific circumstances (you usually have to pay a specific type of ticket if you're a visitor or you're only allowed to if you sell there) unlike western events where you can wear your cosplay from home to the venue and a lot of people wear their costumes in public transport or in their car.

>Refantazio thread

Please no spoilers here, I'd like to play the game later.

>>7974
>Small niches often don't get to have events and it sucks because whenever Akaboo holds one of those tweets that are "the most amount of likes will get considered for an event" usually big fanartists for big franchises like JJK are the ones that end up winning
I have no idea how these votes work at all.

 No.7991

>>7975
>I have no idea how these votes work at all.
There are different options.
One, is this type https://x.com/AKABOO_OFFICIAL/status/1895776106386538505
Akaboo will occasionally mention that if you tweet using #ひらいて赤ブー hashtag (sometimes #開いて赤ブー) they will decide what gets a ship event depending on the number of retweets/likes. Doesn't have to be a "ship" event necessarily, just as long as it looks like something people would want.
That's why you'll sometimes see artists tweet about something with series name and ship name censored (to avoid copyright issues I presume).
The second option, there was an explanation here >>3780
Which is basically gaining tickets by submitting doujinshi. A doujin artist that constantly puts up 5 books per event needs to print their books on an approved printing service that can grant akaboo tickets, sometimes people of the same circles can gather together to vote for the same series/pair if they all consistently release doujinshi themselves.

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https://x.com/hahaha3/status/1917860293998477396 This user made a chart on how doujin culture differs between men and women and it seems pretty interesting, like how the second to last point is about how women are more hesitant to earn a profit on their works while men will just set the price to whatever they want. I'm not confident enough about my japanese to make a translation of the chart so I'm presenting it as is.



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 No.4016[Reply]

I would like to watch some Gundam with nonas, using a service such as Cytube.

I'm open to scheduling it as a 'few episodes a week', or 'A bunch of episodes in bulk'. Both are good.

My timezone is Berlin time, GMT +1.

Nonas can let me know which Gundam they'd like to watch. I'm fine with anything that has cute boys. My personal wish is Zeta Gundam, but I'm also fine watching another timeline or repeating the 0079 series (Albeit perhaps with dub or something to shake it up).
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 No.8536

>>8535
I saw this guy a lot every time I open fc, it's turning me into mustache guys, please tell is he bad guy or neutral/good?

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>>8536
Neutral/good so far. He is also homo for >>4073

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TFW topping preference goes against the grain.

Normally I ship the ships where Char tops, but this time, I'm all for having Char get taken care of.

Especially if Challia has more fatherly/brotherly feelings for Char, but ends up giving in to cute seductive superior, since sex seems to be the one way to actually get his affection through to Char.



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as a counterpart to the hate thread. sperg about things you love.
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 No.8520

>>8493
I think VNs have a higher barrier to entry since not only are a lot of them not translated but also normies can't into patching.

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>>8459
Tokyo Onmyoji is such a good example of this. It's a VN I feel excelled at giving its readers diverging storylines and bad endings. Bad endings can also be fun in their ability to let you explore less appealing or darker sides of a character without compromising the overarching story.
>I have a feeling that the way VNs are finished stories at release can really strengthen them
This is what really scares me about the episodic release model we've seen increase in popularity over recent years. I know it's always existed (Higurashi and Umineko are examples that immediately come to mind), but it's not a method I find particularly appealing.
>>8493
>with a lot of manhwa it’s so repetitive and dull that I don’t understand how anyone can.
I've had this issue, too. I'm sure there are good ones out there, but I've given multiple series a try before realizing that I've wasted countless chapters waiting for it to "get good." It runs into the problem a lot of serialized fiction has where the characters perpetually run in circles trying to kill time.
>>8520
The length probably also increases that barrier. Also, a lot of the English-translated VNs cover topics that don't appear to be popular in anime/manga/manhwa, so it's probable you won't find something appealing to you depending on what type of BL you like.

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Angst, crying, one sided pining. Make the guy depressed until the ending!



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 No.79[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Old or new, post any stupid yaoi memes you got
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 No.4907[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post shit in BL that you hate.

Previous >>2
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 No.8486

>>8485
The thing is- I want battered housewife Screamer. From G1 to Earthspark, I think it's a great relationship. But there's a limit to the over feminization of his character where everyone is yelling GET PREGNANT/SPARKED and making him literally into a woman. All she does is nag, whine, and want to have children with Megatron.

That's my problem.

There is no recognition that Megatron kept him around because he's smart, strong, and could actually fuck him (on the battlefield) if he let his guard down. There's no resistance. No scheming. No pettiness that makes his character, he's just a baby maker with a vagina. KOSS, oddly enough, doesn't have that problem despite Knock Out being every gay stereotype from 2006-2010. He could have done drag in the series (I mean he did drag race) and it would not have broken his character.

But for some reason, he isn't hit with the girl beam. Even in KoBd, he's beefed up. I don't get it. So by extension, so is SS.

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>>8486
>But there's a limit to the over feminization of his character where everyone is yelling GET PREGNANT/SPARKED and making him literally into a woman.
This is making me wish I still had that “you gonna light that pipe?” comic edit where it was Megs and Screamer kek (also reminds me of this)

I ship Overlord and Trepan though so I’m really not one to speak on this matter…
>he isn't hit with the girl beam.
He’s too sassy gay to be the woman in the relationship, you can’t really write a woman like how you would write a sassy gay man but you can absolutely write Starscream into a nagging harpy if you really wanted to.

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>>8487
If you haven't, the Aligned novels are great for how much thought is put into character building. Its focused near singularly on OP, Meg and Alpha Trion, but I love reading SS's moments because he comes off as legitimately wanting to kill Meg at every opportunity. I want them to hate each other, but in a bitter old marriage variety.

(I strongly recommend Exiles first before Covenant)

But because of the fandom specifically, I gravitate towards unheard of pairings or characters that don't have the biggest fandom behind them. Because the fans of the character are insanely more likely to keep them as is and explore or dig into who they are vs Jazzprowl, Rodisound, Dratchet.

The further you go from the fandom favs, the more you get how they look in canon even within fanfic(a particular Megasound fic upset me so much I almost ended up giving up on them)



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The sentence "If you'd replace one or two of the main leads with women, nothing changes" made me wonder if Yoai or Bl can benefit from a bit of realism. I'm on camp neutral, personally. I don't mind some reality in my m/m smut, but one of the reasons I like BL and Joseimuke is the decoupling expectations.
Men in these stories are borne under an idealized version women yearned for but never got because society at large forces men to be something they're not, and they all believe it. Buying into lies has caused men to double down on their misogyny over the years, harming both women, children, and themselves. And when they do reach that truth, they either blot it out or troon it out. Men can never learn, so I've relegated myself to BL, as stupid as it sounds. I feel I have the most control when reality proves disappointing. 
(btw, is this best place to post? /ot/ seemed promising but I choose /ffs/ instead. Made the most sense and honestly, I just wanna screech about pet theories. Please don't clown on me lol)
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 No.5170

i like when the guys are portrayed as straight or on the asexual spectrum until they meet the other guy, so no…
the idea of them being gay isn't attractive to me. but to be fair i don't like when they act too moidy in general so the turn off is not appliable just to them being homosexual. i guess i just want an unrealistic and idealized version of guys. it makes things more romantic and hot

 No.5193

It's all about gap moe and well-rounded personality for me. I don't want them to come off as girly but for the sake of making myself clear I should mention that I don't think of coomer behavior or macho when I say "manly". The real hotness comes from contrasts. Like a serious, honorable and sophisticated dude that values etiquette but then over-reacts or gets emotionally confused when things don't go his way or when his potential love interest approaches him. Or super serious tradition-loving guy that throws an autistic tantrum sometimes.
A bit like the cartoon villains from the past to be honest lol. Threatening at first but then they turn out to be naive and do dumb shit or throw a fit until their super loyal totally not gay sidekick calms them down. Or an allegedly unemotional scientist with hidden insecurities.

There is a lot. But them being outright feminine/boyish kills my enjoyment since cuteness and emotions should be the top on the ice cake not the defining trait everything else is based around. That aside it's just cute and hot af seeing some scary dude softening for a certain other dude. It hits very differently from a blushing insecure softie being lovely dovey. That aside I cannot even relate to those types. Like I don't self-insert or anything but I at least have to vaguely understand a character to like him and I can't with those male and female moe blobbs anime use to have.

 No.8476

Somewhat relatedly, Sex in the City is a good parallel to this thread, although there were a few female writers on the show. In the early seasons, the main writers were gay men, and they wrote these four women as gay men in various aspects, but especially in their sex lives. This is most evident with Samantha. In the original column, she is described as having various no-strings-attached short-term flings with various men. But in the show, she is essentially a hypersexual gay bottom who has to have sex every day and essentially has male orgasms.



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 No.8357[Reply]

Life's not fair, especially for fujoshi. Post your frustrations and things that are on your mind, no matter how harsh it sounds, about advantages everyone else has that fujoshi don't get.

Previous Thread
>>6984
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 No.8450

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>>8447
Real

 No.8451

>>8450
Idol/idol anime fans are just insane, that's why. You chose the wrong niche to get invested in, I'm afraid.

 No.8452

>>8451
Funnily enough none of the 2.5D I've been into were adaptations of idol series. Just fujo stuff. I did watch some Hypmic plays through a friend but those are relatively easy to come by.



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 No.4596[Reply]

Right now, ship wars for gay paring are much less common than in the past, but I notice one divide that still exists, a popular ship based on which male leads are the most conventionally attractive will usually be at odds with another ship, based on actual character development, an example I grew up with was Beyblade where the two most shipped characters were Kai and Rei, despite not having much interaction because they looked the most attractive. The most famous example of this would be One Piece, where Zosan remains the most popular for the same reason
I can see both sides of the arguments, but personally I support shipping based on what people find attractive in the first place
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 No.5537

Both would be the best, but I care about the characters being interesting more, for me personally the characters being engaging on their own is more important than interactions, especially if most of the interactions are cookie-cutter, if they don't have an interesting story or origin even, I am not really going to be into them.
My favorite dynamic is antagonist/antihero/antagonist with redemption arc with hero, and often thankfully the nemesis gets a great design, even better than the mains.

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Daredevil is a good example of a general vice shift. In any another context Matt/Foggy would have been the most popular shit, but Foggy looked like he was objectively and canonically an unattractive guy and so it got pushed aside in comparison to Daredevil/Punisher (a more typical rivals ship), but around 3-4 years Matt/Foggy became popular and surpassed Daredevil/Punisher, so I think again there is a shift where dynamics and character interaction prevail over just looks

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>>4609
Harry Du Bois/Kim Kitsuragi from Disco Elysium
Roadhog/Junkrat from Overwatch



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