/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>13946
And they're all cardboard cutout gachaslop characters too kekk you can't make this shit up.

>>13946
These people areselective when it comes to platonic yume too?? KEKKK

>>13946
Why do they need seven boyfriends?

>>13949
She doesn't even want people to hype the first one. Yume behavior is genuinely deranged—this cannot be a healthy way to interact with fiction.

>>13955
I was in a NS yume server once out of support for my friend and the way it was structured was inconceivable to me. Everyone had their own channel to sperg out over their yumeship and people interacted with each other kind of like fans or mainly engaged with someone's yumeship expecting interaction back in return. Even then, when liking someone's yumeship you can't go "all out" like you would a normal OTP because some of the yumes would be extremely picky about interpretations and whatnot. At most you just make generic pretty fanart for a yumeship you like and that's it kek. I'm sure sharing yumes are more sane when it comes to this kind of stuff but the server had a sad and insulated atmosphere despite having so many people.

>>13951
Right? I don't get the point of having more than one husbando/waifu and why some of them you're okay with sharing while some of them you're not

>>13955
She gotta have total ownership of a corporation's intellectual property because of [spiritual garbage]

>>13956
>you can't go "all out" like you would a normal OTP because some of the yumes would be extremely picky about interpretations and whatnot
This is what killed every friendship I had with yume. I like writing cute scenarios for ships so I couldn't help suggesting similar things for their selfships, and no matter how much I knew the character/series they always had some "err no he would not do that" comeback at me. Felt really bad because I was trying to be positive and play along.

A channel for every user is crazy though, just use the forum feature or threads. Guess it was so they could bar people from replying in some channels, or worse, keep sharers from seeing the other user existed.

>>13957
It's literally favorites. Just be a characterfag like a normal person.

>>13960
>Just be a characterfag like a normal person.
I wish oshi would come back into popular use tbh.

>>13946
This yume non-sharing bullshit needs to be called out and shamed more. Not only is it cringe but it's super unhealthy.

>>13964
Or Deviantart needs to catch on again so they can make their selfship fan club with '[character] belongs to ME!!!' stamps and leave everyone else alone like god intended.

>>13913
I notice how stale their post contents are when I see them on 4chan. They always post the same two screenshots or same two solo fanarts (80% of the great fanart involves ships and the other 19.9% is solo art made by fujos whom yume usually block) and they never say anything but stuff like "my beloved [name]".

It's so boring. I think that even if I fantasized about fucking one of my favorite gay dudes in my head I would still crave BL art because simply because it depicts my husbando in a sexy role or pose or simply because it's pretty art of him. But they usually don't even do that. They just make the same posts ad infinitum and don't talk to anybody since everybody else is either a fujo or another self-shipper and therefore rival.

I also noticed that they never seem to post their husbandos in any specific or funny situations. It's always sterile, neutral art, usually some that only shows their face with a smile. I know there are other yume, but the ones on 4chan in particular act like they fell in love with statues.

>>13966
Which board are you thinking of? I think the ones on /trash/ are more relaxed and veer into weird kinks, but the /a/ threads have a 10+ years long culture of tormenting anyone who doesn't completely sanitize their feelings and interest in their husbando/waifu. I got a bunch of shit for saying he could survive getting set fire to or blown apart in a blast and that I thought being an OP hero like that was hot. You have to virtue signal the living shit out of not wanting to see or be reminded of anything harmful or they'll harass you, in the 2010s they'd spam you with gore pics too, some of them custom made.

>I make a post about a character
>Only in the tags of the post I talk about a ship with that character & how much I love it/it reflects that character's growth
>There's an infamous yume who hates all the yaoi ships despite the fact that this manga is made by a fujo (and pretends it's only the problematic ones/because it's a friendship manga but never calls out the canon het ships/one-sided crushes which are also "problematic") who husbandos this character
>She likes the post

I really thought she stopped being active (last post was two months ago) but no she just has nothing to post/reblog because quite literally all the other people in this small-ass fandom who are active are fujos and she can only reblog from the occasional fandom tourist who goes "muhh this manga is about FRIENDSHIP you sick fucks" or someone who posts art of her husbando. It feels very funny to have her like the post because she didn't read the tags and it feels like I'm being encouraged to make/post more about yaoi… well if even the yume liked it then that means I'm onto something!

>>13979
I'm trying to think about what manga you are talking about, and my brain is going to Hikaru lol

>>13981
Nah it's Servamp, if there was a yume who acted like this in the Hikaru fandom and no one immediately shut her down with "It was originally marketed/tagged as a BL", "One of the MCs is gay from the beginning", and "You're homophobic" modern fujoshi spaces are doomed. I'm exaggerating when I say she's infamous because it is only known to me and 30 other people lol but she comments under other people's posts saying people are "abrasive" that their ship didn't become canon (no one's did, dip-shit) and says she hates her husbando's main ship bc it's adult x minor and everyone who ships it is gross and conveniently ignores the creator of her husbando literally has made BL doujinshi of a middle schooler (ish) being in a relationship with someone in their 20s lmao. She's reblogged all the posts she could find criticizing the fandom and there's barely any of them and so she's stuck reblogging official art where her husbando is literally holding hands with another guy.

>>13964
The non-sharing culture is weird af and causes them to constantly tweak out over everything.

>>13979
>>13982
>quite literally all the other people in this small-ass fandom who are active are fujos
>She's reblogged all the posts she could find criticizing the fandom and there's barely any of them
It's a hell of her own making lel.

>>13946
>>13955
>>14031
It's like the one bicycle self-sabotage meme.

Does anyone else think that the popularity of gachas and yume culture killed fujobait and homopandering? Joseimuke now becoming "for schizo yumes who need the devs to state the guys are straight and not let them interact". It's sad when Hoyoverse will continue to have shooters only for being the only big gacha company that lets guys interact, despite their shipbait being boring because their games are boring. BL is too niche to sell, bait doesn't satisfy the West, so we have less and less with the rise of gacha game popularity in weaboo spaces.

>>14109
>Does anyone else think that the popularity of gachas and yume culture killed fujobait and homopandering?
Yes and no. There are still fujos going strong and thriving in gacha spaces, and the work they create still gets a lot of attention. The fact is that the creators in general don't give a fuck about their female audience, especially fujos; that's why we get literal crumbs of content smushed into one so they don't piss off male players. And to add to that, a lot of gacha content lives on headcanon and imagination. (gacha games are the ultimate form of vague posting) They often see women as a quick buck; they don't care about the diversity of women-led spaces, which is why we see constant fighting between yumes, fujos, and himes. (When a game is made for women, it is expected to accommodate EVERY woman, gay man, and troons) This is why I want fujo's and other groups of women to drop gacha games and anime made for males, it's a waste of money. (but then again these people just like being into what's popular)

I think the shift we're seeing is just the effect of people who were larping fujo culture. There's a bunch of toxic people who get obsessed with being 'unique and quirky' and handed a stereotype to act out for a few years; they invade internet subcultures and larp it until it's ruined, then they change their personality and start attacking the last subculture they fucked up. I bet lots of yumes used to be 'fujos' who were big into 'kinning' a male character. They obviously have a lot of self-hate and shit but gained a need for self-fulfillment and needed everything to personally pander to them to alleviate and coddle the emotional burden they have. I have also seen a lot of tourist women admit they were big into bl before they got a bf and now think every woman is like them. (Not to mention how terrible Aydens are to fujos once they start living in their delusions.)

>Joseimuke now becoming "for schizo yumes who need the devs to state the guys are straight and not let them interact"
Honestly, I've only seen this amount of schizo because of LADS and a lot of people are pushing back on women like this a lot of women love how the bad parts of asian fandoms work. And honestly, as an avid jrpg fan I've been seeing this more for male-targeted media and way, way longer than what we see from girl spaces. (Not defending them)

>>14115
>I bet lots of yumes used to be 'fujos' who were big into 'kinning' a male character
I had many kinblr mutuals way back and I can attest to this. Yumeshipping/self-inserting was seen as cringe back then so no one really did it overtly and they still considered themselves OTP shippers, but you could always tell that there was something off about them and they weren't like the other fujos, so to speak; i.e., only talking about one half of the ship, kinning one of the characters to lust over their husbando in a "yaoi" and not self-shipping way, kindating, etc. Like those types would never sperg about the ship itself or headcanon/metapost, their interest in the pairing was limited to thirstposting over a single character. Even if they were reblogging ship art they'd just lust over their husbando in the tags and ignore the other guy. I have two mutuals who were like this back then that I'm still friends with and they're both hardcore yumes now. If you look at any profile of a yume today, they all came from kinning circles (or if they're too young to had experienced it, they clearly would have been otherwise).

>>14109
It's definitely a huge reason. Once anime and gacha games really fracked into the Chinese female market and realized how intensively they get into yumeing, it was over for the rest of us. Attractive male characters are forbidden from speaking to female characters because that would be cucking, but they're also forbidden from speaking to other male characters because that would be gay and disgusting and emasculating to their husbando. So they only interact with the female main who's supposed to be a (you) stand-in while the rest of the male characters are either little boys or girls your age whose only role is to be your handmaidens and do yuribait so that you know they're lesbians and won't touch your man. We see this in Hoyoverse games all the time now. Fujos are some of the most faithful fans who have saved entire franchises with their character ship autism, but Chinese yumes are genuinely so unhinged they will spend the last of their paycheck to whale for their husbando because he's quite literally their entire world. They're lonely office workers burnt out from work with little to no social life, of course they would go to war for their 2D Nigel because that's all they have.

>>14115
>>14116
A lot of the FTM fujos are definitely just yumes who larped too hard, but there's also a major market, especially in East Asia, of yumes who are mentally ill and also openly homophobic so they don't want any fujopandering in their joseimuke. The way they chimped out over Valko during the LADS meltdown stands as a testament to this because one of the reasons they hated him was specifically because they saw him as "too gay" as in Asia being buff and manly is seen as a sign of homosexuality.

>>14116
>Yumeshipping/self-inserting was seen as cringe back then so no one really did it overtly
We used to be a proper country…
They know the other fujo's they surrounded themselves with won't suddenly accept the sudden change, so they go bonkers. I never understand why they feel the need to lie to build a whole persona of what they're not. Similar ppl always exist and they will gravitate towards you, but even if not, I'd rather be on my lonesome.
>but you could always tell that there was something off about them and they weren't like the other fujos, so to speak
It's crazy how this still happens nowadays with secret self shippers but they also have expanded to het ships where they project through the female character and claim you're misogynistic if you ship the male character with another male.

What do you guys think of the cases where a fujo openly prefers one character from a ship but keeps the other one as an 'accessory' because they're basically a duo? Do you feel like it's the same case? Because I've seen many cases like that and have never thought about it much.

>Attractive male characters are forbidden from speaking to female characters because that would be cucking
Amazing times we live in. Yumejoshi have become what they hate the most: a male waifu/harem-fag. They always talk like a cult that has been wronged in terrible ways because a game dared to not give them wish-fulfillment romanceslop of a character they will never be. (Every self-insert MC has slight traces of a unique personality that no normal person would have)
>FTM fujos are definitely just yumes who larped too hard
I'm telling you guys a lot of FTM's are victims of the 'tumblr fujo harassment' times. Adult gays, troons, and women/men etc would attack fujos between the ages of 13-20 and shame them, using a lot of harsh words that would scare and make them uncomfortable. Girls are taught to accommodate everyone and be morally performative, so a lot gaslit themselves into thinking they were male and troon'd out instead.

>>14118
>What do you guys think of the cases where a fujo openly prefers one character
I don't think this is inherently closeted yumeing because favouritism is pretty normal. It's also possible to not be a shipper and still not a yume either, I've seen some people fall into this category where they have a shrine for a character and enjoy duo content from time to time but don't seem invested in any sort of romantic stuff with said character.

I would say it's determinant on how much they actually like the ship itself, so it depends by what you mean by accessory I guess? If they mainly care about their favourite and just RT ship art on the side sometimes but aren't invested in it beyond very passive consumption then I'm not sure if I'd consider that person a fan of the ship. That's more akin to simply appreciating any content of your oshi, and that character just so happens to have a popular pairing so by default a lot of their fanworks end up being shipping food. There are also people who are just "used to" being fujos, and they get attached to a particular character but don't like the ship for that character that much, so they end up in a situation where they want to ship that character with another dude but nothing piques their interest and they have to settle for the default/main pairing. I think the scenario you described probably fits into that the most.

>>14119
Your whole answer understood what I meant perfectly, and all the different scenarios you provided fit with what I've seen while browsing.

For some reason, this was on my trending news on twitter this morning. Self-shippers are just openly schizoing out now. Wtf is 'soulbounding' and 'shifting'? I'm getting secondhand embarrassment… The op is a yume and is weirded out.
I learned shifting is just daydreaming extremely hard, and soulbounding is creating an autonomous consciousness in your mind both have to do with reaching an 'extreme closeness with the character yume'. It originates from tiktok…

>>14121
Tulpas but for girls

>>14118
>Yumejoshi have become what they hate the most: a male waifu/harem-fag
They belong with each other.

>>14121
I guess good job to these yumes for achieving psychosis without using AI. At least this doesn't waste water and electricity.

>>14118
>What do you guys think of the cases where a fujo openly prefers one character from a ship but keeps the other one as an 'accessory' because they're basically a duo? Do you feel like it's the same case? Because I've seen many cases like that and have never thought about it much.
It's normal to prefer one character but I dislike it if fans refuse to make the other one look like a person. "Accessory" is a good description, it's terrible. They also usually do it with the character they imagine to be the top and reduce him to a semi-faceless body with penis to fuck the other dude.

Even for the pairings where I clearly prefer one character I could never feel joy shipping him with a plank of wood. I might not draw as many solo pics with the other dude and think about him less often, but I would always give him a personality when he appears.

Yeah those fans are strange and in my experience quick to yume out, self-insert or feminize the character. For some of my fav pairings there are a bunch that even outright ignore the other dude. They would never even like or retweet an artwork that only shows the other, despite being a cool, funny character. But to them he literally only exists to give their fav a dick. And yes, two of them headcanon him as woman, before you ask. They aren't even westerners.

>>14118
>>14128
I've seen it so often that the bottom has a whole repressed internalized homophobia arc about his feelings for the top and the top is a super puppy himbo going "I'm X and I like Y :)", like they have no conscious sexual orientation at all kek.

Not much else to add, obviously that kind of flagrant disinterest sucks.

Twitter is the worst fandom space. Worse than 4chan, much worse than Tumblr, worse than Reddit. Prove me wrong.

>>14130
I never had direct negative experiences on twitter aside from the casual shoving in of genderbending, girlboss and trans shit so far, but not nearly as much as on bluesky.
That said though Chinese are known for being batshit insane regarding pairings. I was lucky so far but sometimes casually see the drama on Chinese twitter unfolding and it's crazy. They act as if the "wrong" shipping order equals a genocide and warn everybody to not interact if they do so much as "like" x/y instead of y/x (maybe they block me early and this is why I don't get dragged into that) and while they are among the best artists on earth Chinese "gay" spaces are flooded with cuntboys and m/f gender roles.

>>14128
There have always been fujos who prefer mob x character type art or just solo lewds, right? (with something like disembodied/invisible hands)
I like this kind of stuff occasionally but I'm definitely mainly drawn to shipping, if there is no good ship for a character then it does scratch an itch. But there are definitely people who aren't picky about ships and care more about just seeing their specific fave get fucked by whatever. There can also be femdom focus yume that's similar but the only difference here is lack of self insert. I guess it's just a different category of fujo.

>>14130
I found this one funny, but yeah it's twitter in this modern age. The translation feature just made things worse kekkkk people, reminds me when anons posted KRs seething because people told them that most of them weren't naturally that pale & they didn't need nose jobs.

>>14132
I find it so funny when people talk about how western fandom is the worst just because they haven't seen the Chinese. People there will send you messages like picrel >>14130 for shipping the wrong ship and report you to the authorities over online grievances which can turn into a jail sentence if your mommy and daddy are connected enough.

>>14133
I mean there is nothing wrong with liking a character without ship or mob. I just meant the people that technically ship, call themselves shippers and only ship one particular pairing but treat one of the two guys as ooc penis.
>>14134
I have no idea what this and the other pairing above are about (first looks like harry potter to me) are they from het series or why do selfshippers even believe that they're relevant here?
That aside unless the first one was also a reply you wouldn't even encounter that stuff since users rarely tag on twitter. I hate het for gay series and despite there being a lot I barely see it because I don't interact with it. Only happens when I click through a gallery of someone before I consider following them. These people actively interact with the stuff they hate, telling the algorithm that they want more of it lol

>>14136
It's a chinese gacha otome game called Love and Deepspace. The most unstable self-insert shippers are the ones keeping the game alive by spending for their favourite boy so it also means the fanbase is full of entitled weirdos who will threaten real women over pixels on a phone screen. Bald Zayne seems to be intentionally trolling them by replying with these gay edits but an adjusted person wouldn't chimp out like this.

>>14136
>I just meant the people that technically ship, call themselves shippers and only ship one particular pairing but treat one of the two guys as ooc penis.
I feel that many people like this (at least in western fandom specifically) either don't know that mob is an option or are just in the ship fandom because it gets more art.
This seems a bit less common now though because at least to me, solo character thirst seems at an all time high, with new characters blowing up on social media and getting a bunch of art, like Leon right now.

>>14129
Himbo reaching common usage was a disaster for bl shipping. The top is usually buffer and more masculine, so the people of the world who use memes to describe everything lean into making him big, dumb, and strong, with absolutely nothing else going on.
>>14130
I'm sure this is super threatening in mandarin, but man does it sound lame in translation. Literally the female equivalent of the navy seals copypasta.
>>14132
The chinese are amazing fanartists—rivaled only by maybe the russians. They are also godawful at tagging anything. I've been jumpscared by cuntboy too many times to count.

>>14117
This is exactly why I hate the rise of gacha replacing jrpgs and visual novels. Very few want to pander to fujos and actually have a decent budget and story. I don't blame people for sticking with Hoyoslop despite me finding their bait lackluster, because it's still the only long running game pretending to have lore, which always draws in a fandom. Every other game wants to cater to incels, hetfags, and crazy yumes. It's sad how the only thing fujos have is omnislop because most BL games have shit budgets, shit story or art, and the other high budget games for women are all otome that need to specify that the men are all straight. Fuck yumes.

Have you guys heard of the Peter Pan yumes at DisneyLand horror stories? A yume had husbando Peter Pan and she kept going to disneyland to pretend to go on dates with him for YEARS.
This sparked multiple stories of yumes obsessed with other characters like Luke Skywalker and Gaston.

>>14225
I remember hearing about a case like that years ago but I didn't know it's happened multiple times.

>>14219
>the other high budget games for women are all otome that need to specify that the men are all straight
Has any one other than LADS actually done this?

>>14229
nayrt, maybe Diabolik Lovers? I honestly can't think of any off the top of my head that are ultra budget and expressly directed to women.

>>14225
Oh, that's a nostalgia trip. I remember back in like 2010, there was this specific Peter Pan with whom tumblr was obsessed. iirc, he had a few irl stalkers. I can only imagine how bad it is now, more than a decade later.

>>14225
Gaston? At least they should have a crush on characters who aren't annoying and ugly at the same time, damn.

>>14231
I've heard about this phenomenon and it's so weird, I can't imagine being chased through the park and being forced to stay in-character while people are harassing you.

>>14232
Shit taste, he's fun. If Disney does one thing right it's their villians.

>>14233
There's social media disney goers who do nothing but visit the actors every day.

I saw one who constantly harasses Megatron in Universal. He calls her by name.

I can't tell if he's happy to do the bit or groans off the mic before she shows up because this was a daily activity for her in 2025. Pic is for height difference.