/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>"ok guys we got two story updates, a new cooking with your bf simulator, added photography options, and this guy who has backstory with this one guy which will be relevant later"
>"we don't want him reee"
>"ok we'll need another six months to remove all reference to him from the story updates for the other guy"
lmao shot themselves in the foot.

>>13523
btw this is after them talking shit about fujos for years for ruining "fandoms" and being "obsessed with shipping " when the worst fujo fandom drama was probably supernatural and it's not even close.

>>13523
You have to have a certain degree of mental illness, severely unfulfilled psychological needs and detachment from reality to be a yume to begin with. People like that tend to also be very unstable and get very intense with their escapism. And companies know this and they've been intentionally exploiting their fragile mental state by baiting them into creating fanart, events, etc. besides the in-game spending. And now the chicken simply came home to roost.

>>13522
>I hope the entire game gets shut down KEK
So you want fewer games aimed exclusively at women only because a portion of the players are batshit insane?

>>13523
I thought Ao3 was Untamed fans pissed off about some RPF fic that genderbent or made one of the guys a trans woman. Were they stans of the actor or RPF fujos?

>>13527
NTA. If a cult is for women and panders exclusively towards women, it doesn't matter.

It's a cult.

Try again with a game that does the same things but doesn't intentionally prey on women to make them parasocially attached to an mp4 file to the point VA's have to remain anonymous because these women will 'Misery' the guy.

>>13529
You know that the silent majority of fans just want to enjoy their husbando in peace and don't partake in insane otaku behaviour, like some male idolfags? Just because there are some deranged individuals for whom it is a cult, everyone should suffer?

>>13528
Actor stans
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiao_Zhan_incident

>>13530
The silent majority literally don't matter. It's a Chinese game funded by wealthy Chinese women who go out of their way to leave shit on the front door of an office building. Unhinged radicalism doesn't go away if you ignore it.

>>13530
If there really was a silent majority there wouldn't be as much drama as there is even outside of this specific one. PLUS the biggest spenders are usually the most mentally unstable, and those are literally what's keeping the company afloat. Poorfag husbandofag that is happy getting 1 copy of their husbando and maybe getting 3 pieces of merch isn't making infold get 30million in revenue in the month, the batshit insane stan buying 100 badges and wanting like 20 different maxed copies to flaunt how SHE is the biggest fan of husbando ever, is.

>>13526
>You have to have a certain degree of mental illness, severely unfulfilled psychological needs and detachment from reality to be a yume to begin with
You're reminding me of that time I saw a twitter post where a girl drew a little comic about how she thought she was gonna kill herself around 13-16 and that's why at age 19 her doctor told her she has health issues she should've fixed years ago and then I looked at her profile and she's a yume for Bob-omb from paper mario with 'proshippers DNI' in her bio.

>>13533
Gachas just need to become highly regulated or illegal because as long as they work the current way they do, they're always going to be built around mentally ill whales while at the same time slowly enshittifying and releasing less and less content over time, making gameplay worse with powercreep, and unable to do anything actually interesting in the story.

>>13532
>Unhinged radicalism doesn't go away if you ignore it.
It goes away if it's shunned by the society. You think Japan views otaku and various stans as normal people? They are considered as weirdos and ridiculed if they don't keep their hobbies to themselves. Perhaps simply ignoring social media shitters is what every company and creator should be doing, an unthinkable idea, I know.

>>13536
No it does not. Not in CCP censorship land where entire genres of fiction can be erased from production if enough few people are loud.

Some beached whales on tumblr aren't going to make a difference. But this is a market based entirely in a country that did this >>13531

And otaku are reviled but idol culture is still going strong. Public shaming for dating is still going strong. Japan's problems didn't stop happening in the entertainment business just because it's no longer headlining.

Don't care if this is mean or vindictive, but I laugh and spit at these retarded yumes for chimping out and potentially getting their game EOS.

>>13539
If the game permanently dies, I want to see what will happen to their interests. There's a streamer yume who whales on all her digital husbandos and she's not hurting. But the ones who buy out venues to host birthday dinners would probably have nothing to show for their effort.

Would they play a low budget, 2D, yaoi bating self-insert game or latch on to genshin and throw piss bottles at mihoyo until they cave

>>13540
Wasn't there a competitor to lads that was recently announced? People will probably jump ship there or more companies will take their chance.

>>13534
>Bob-omb from paper mario
I'm honestly convinced most of these yumes with hyper-specific and unique S/Os don't actually like the characters to that degree, they just wanted to pick a character they were unlikely to find another yume shipping herself with. The "non-sharing" aspect of yume culture is so fucking weird to me.

>>13543
NTA but this is how I often see it myself as well. Extreme no-shares who have to find these obscure husbandos that they meme themselves into yumeing for just because they can keep them for themselves. I also think there's some amount of low self-esteem in it as well, like how some women say they can't play LaDS because they consider themselves to be "too ugly" for the impossibly beautiful male love interests it has. A bob-omb or some other ugly cartoon character doesn't flare up your looksmatching neurosis.

>>13543
I have never played this game but maybe it's one of those childhood video game/cartoon crushes that never went away. Bobombs are cute though, I won't say she has bad taste when there are people selfshipping with fugly FNAF robots and shit kek

>>13529
>to make them parasocially attached to an mp4 file to the point VA's have to remain anonymous because these women will 'Misery' the guy.

isn't that what happened to Leon's face model? he had to private his instagram because of the comments and messages he was receiving?

>>13529
This. We need more female-oriented games that aren't preying on their loneliness and desire for a partner that isn't the average neglectful man. These games intentionally enabling detachment from reality are dangerous on the level of substance abuse, the same kind of addiction, the same kind of money sink. It's one thing to have a gacha game with male characters pandering to women but the core theme is around the gameplay and story, but an entirely another to make those men seem as attentive and centered around (you) as possible while making you pay up to get more of their attention, that's where it goes into a different territory. It's literally the same as those really sad women who get AI boyfriends and then freak the fuck out when their model gets replaced or the context is reset and they don't "remember" them anymore. Multimillion dollar companies intentionally pulling you deeper into the addiction to suck your money dry until you have nothing left.

>>13530
The "silent majority" reasoning is hard to buy when LaDS lost 1 million followers following Valko's release. 1 million people reacted strongly enough to unfollow their socials in protest, that's a huge number that they've groomed into a parasocial attachment to their mp4 boyfriends.

>>13536
Absolutely true, and this is exactly why I blame these companies. They've used refined tactics to normalize and amplify self-insertion and even glorify it, and the "let people have fun" mindset muffled any level-headed criticism of it. Chinese companies are so money hungry and play with an entirely new level of wealth where they're talking about billions of dollars compared to what the gacha industry was worth in 2017 or so, so they're turning every stone to find ways to extract more wealth. I actually hope LaDS goes EOS just so that these companies would suffer the consequences of their actions, but then again, Mihoyo forgot the lesson they learned from the knife maniac immediately when Da Wei's ego project Star Rail was launched and became a money sink.

>>13557
You make some very good points, but would you also apply this to otome games and VNs that aren't mobile games with microtransactions? Because I like a few otome titles but agree the way LADS and similar games go about it with gacha is bad.

>>13540
>the ones who buy out venues to host birthday dinners would probably have nothing to show for their effort
Kek, do Chinese yumes really?

>>13557
>1 million people reacted strongly enough to unfollow their socials in protest, that's a huge number that they've groomed into a parasocial attachment to their mp4 boyfriends.
Conspiracy theory time: it was a pre-planned campaign and the involved actors made/bought accounts to follow the company's social media weeks earlier only to unfollow when the 'scandal' blew up.

>>13543
>The "non-sharing" aspect of yume culture is so fucking weird to me.
It's hard to be friends with hardcore yumes because they are thin-skinned and possessive over their husbando. Forget it if you share a fandom. What they say about the character goes. Other headcanons or character interpretations trigger them. Anything besides them x husbando is a NOTP.

>>13564
>What they say about the character goes. Other headcanons or character interpretations trigger them.
I don't know what it is about modern yumes where you have to tiptoe around them to avoid setting off a bomb. They're obnoxious to be around.

>>13566
Maybe it's more that this type of person was rarely mixing with the rest of the fandom before, if they weren't just a kid who would grow out of their 'he belongs to ME!' phase?

>>13569
What truly sucks is that this behavior is obsessively affirmed through tumblr. Like cult levels of 'you and your fo are just as valid as any couple.' It looks like some kool-aid level mysticism and shaming it gets you shamed and blocked.

Maybe it's because it's for women.

Otaku and their literal cardboard waifus are constantly dragged irl and online. Like that guy who married a DS game avatar. But yumes get special passes to act like unwashed, overweight otaku with no real life friends.

>>13570
Tumblr caused different fandom communities to be a lot more visible in a way they weren't on Livejournal when it was very easy to be private and in your own little bubble. Search your fave's tag on tumblr and you would see shipfic, you would see readerfic, you would see random thirst posts…
And all kinds of delusion affirming came from Tumblr still into today with fictionkin, plurals and object pronouns. Many new selfshippers are in those groups too.

>>13508
It will never happen, I'm afraid. If anything it will make companies think that pandering to women at all won't make any money.
Nonas here see this with shounen and seinen and the like, absolutely zero fujobait or even attractive male characters in the newer series save for pedobait trapshit made to cater to their reddit bisexuality. And good luck finding a mainstream shoujo that isn't GL or about crossdressing.

>>13572
>Seinen
Karaoke Iko literally just aired.
Meanwhile for shonen, garbage like mashle is somehow popular with fujos so either there is bait or people don't have standards (which I know they don't)

>>13573
Tbh I've been noticing more series that have fujobait and fandoms, but never really mentioned on the western side.
Maybe its a matter of incompatibility, like with Nintama, or that they're really boring/not the vibe like with Mashle/Dr. Stone. Maybe they're just too new/obscure, but its a little strange when they seem to be growing well with how much art and fan made merchandise they get.

>>13574
Western fandom hyperfocuses on only the biggest new Shonen Jump stuff and there are many people who won't watch anything they don't see on tiktok first, Japanese fandom is naturally going to have wider range.

>>13570
I only noticed them creeping into series tags in the last six months or so and it's bizarre how it all sprung up. You can identify their posts right away because they put lacy pixel art border images around their posts as though their blog layout isn't designed enough for them. All the ones I've seen so far have really niche tastes in American bands and alternative fashion, and they don't seem to know a lot about anime/manga so they spend time trying to apply their music tastes to the character(s) they've latched onto. I can only conclude that they're sheltered kids who are trying to make a hobby for themselves, and just like the 4chan waifu cults they pass a rulebook to each other about things that are forbidden to say about someone else's character or your own. To me it seems to replicate itself in the same way anti fights happen on teenage twitter - kids who want to be part of a community playing copycat of each other's activities to fit into a group and define their identity. Identity is a big deal for young people. Making posts announcing who you/your insert character are and then explaining how they act. It's just trying to be someone in a framework they've been handed by others.

>>13575
>many people who won't watch anything they don't see on tiktok first
You say this, even I've said this at some point in the last few years, but the thing that keeps bothering me these days isn't the tiktok crowd not getting into new things, it's the image board crowd. Anon/nona who won't try and just keep talking about Shounen Jump as the pinnacle. It feels so backwards when I find something super shippable but when I try to find someone to talk to about it the only options are a handful of embarrassing teenagers on tumblr who don't get innuendos or older fandom terminology. Small pockets will exist on social media, they always did, but now you never know how guarded you have to be talking to someone.

>>13576
Even sticking to just Shounen Jump, setting aside stuff like Sakamoto Days and Mashle, you'd expect to see Kagurabachi around at least a little bit more. Especially with the "we got the fujo fanbase!" meme.

>>13572
>mainstream shoujo about crossdressing
I think your hateboner for traps is confusing you a little because what exactly are you even referring to here?
>>13575
true, and I wonder if it’s also that a lot of newer fans are terribly casual and don’t know how to watch anything that’s not on a streaming service?

>>13577
>Kagurabachi
Maybe when the anime airs they'll flood the fandom. A lot of these type of fans don't read manga and just watch the WSJ anime adaptations when they air or when they get popular in their social circle.

>>13574
In the West anime seems to not have anything for fujos and more for hetfags and yurifags. People want to be into the big shows that have nice animation and promotion. There's also way less actually interesting homobait now since creators know cute girls sell more with straight male otaku. It's been diminishing returns for fujos with anything weeb for a while now, from anime to gacha. Add the fact that fujos are shit on by everyone in fandom means it's really over. You can only like boring shows about identity like Nakamura, or ship the mentor characters in a general show like Witch Hat Atelier, but a show about a homobait duo that's made to attract fujos and be a big thing? That's over.

>>13580
>male otaku prioritized because “women don’t have money”
>fujo hated on
this has always been the case though. BL anime is slow releasing but steady
>nakamura is “about identity”
what??

>>13581
It was the case but we used to at least get bishies and homoeroticism in anime. I know some anons like to think it never changed or got worse, but it has.
Nakamura is boring because it's praised for "authenticity" and the MC doesn't even get with anyone. I don't care about gay dudes in unrequited love with a straight guy, I want plots and actual stories.

>>13582
I don’t really care if you don’t like nakamura personally but it’s still not “about identity” or whatever you think. also, there’s still plenty of homo in anime, maybe you just have nostalgia glasses.

>>13580
Tbh I just think things turning so that Big fandom! Big austere production! Big fanfic! being how people measure homobait has also contributed to the sad state of things. While going by this scale, of course there will be nothing good since barely anybody is giving themselves a chance to try something new blank slate, no prejudice and instead keep sticking to things that no longer pander or never really had to because they aren't interested in chemistry, they're interested in the social community around it and how they can use it to boost their oc.

>>13583
They probably aren't actually watching or reading anything and judge based on first impressions. But I haven't watched any new anime in months and even I know there's still tons of homo going on.
Bravern was a duo show that aired only 2 years ago. New homobait/BL fitting your specific criteria not coming out every single season/year doesn't mean it's the end times.

passive aggressive salty hetfag tweets are hilarious

>>13587
KEKKK did you get these from LC? With the first one you can't win tho, they're trying to wokify their interest in the MC being gay because if they just ignored her they'd be called misogynists. There's no good way to approach it so these people have to complain and call it performative despite that their critique is also performative because they aren't making fan content. The second one is often true tho kek, esp for shonen ships. SasuSaku & NaruHina…

>>13587
ngl, a little unrelated maybe but I've seen people describe male characters (usually the uke) the same way as the first post (even including the "wife") and I don't understand whether they're projecting as wanting to be the uke and be desired by the character they want to get fucked by or that they resent them for whatever reason (like oh what a shame character I like is gay but it's ok I can still self insert)

>>13588
Yeah, it's funny to repost them when these tweets are posted completely seriously
>>13589
It's probably a mix of retarded fandomspeak plus thirsting after the character plus maybe self-insertion depending on the person like you said. Usually a focus on the seme being all over the uke

>>13589
For those types of fujos the shipping comes off as wish-fulfillment (self-inserting/projecting onto the uke). It kind of reminds me of how people would pamper their self-insert OCs, make them Mary Sue's, give them the most intricate writing/details, etc. but the love interest OC would be very bland. Imo a lot of shipping nowadays is an extension of that.

>>13589
I wish I was in y'all's fandoms because the ones I'm in do this to the seme… like everything revolves around the uke to the point it drives me crazy. In my fandom they actually are simping over the uke when they say that, and want to see him submissive, so the only way to do that is with a man. I think it is a bit of self-insertion as well but in the gender way but it is mainly simping since his character type is pretty beloved amongst fujos.