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>>10097Post shower thoughts or stuff that doesn't fit other threads.
No.11374
>>11303did she draw Transformers Yaoi? cause I think I know who your talking about
No.11378
>>11357Why am I not surprised at all this was a dark romance con?? Anti-fujos accuse fujos of not being able to separate fantasy from reality when shit like this happens. You don’t see fujos groping or assaulting irl gay men.
>>11368> I think it's that the romantasy girls weren't raised in the nerd fandom crowd where we always got warnings about not behaving in a way that feeds into bad stereotypes.Romance as a genre has always been a ghetto and unlike SF/fantasy or furries, it hasn’t had decades of an established con culture so I can give organizers some benefit of the doubt. If they were more experienced, they would’ve have the foresight to enact guard rails to prevent inappropriate behavior. There was also an instance where someone whipped out a strap-on and someone else started fellating it in public and no one had the sense to stop them. Furries have had decades to perfect their con culture and you end up with spectacles like Rainfurrest, whereas I’m assuming the average romantasy fan is more normie and so probably better socially integrated. So in short, I think the organizers are mostly to blame.
No.11380
>>11357I wish you remembered which video it is, I want to watch it. This topic reminds me of this video I watched recently about a con about Western TV shows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpOEfNYEhrg No.11386
>>11385I like traps because I like the idea of a guy falling in love with someone he thought was a girl only to actually be "trapped" and have to deal with that internal mental struggle. Very melodramatic I know.
Otherwise it's the same as any other character where I like them I'll ship them, I prefer the character to act more typically masculine and have a gap-moe appeal, but if they're fun enough like Astolfo I can deal with more cutesy characters.
>I don't really consider it BLSome of it falls under the BL umbrella some of it doesn't. Generally I think you can tell when a fanwork has been written for a male or female demographic, 90% of western trap works are squarely aimed at men though.
No.11388
For me personally I don't care if the boy's character design is girly cause in the end as long as he has a dick and balls and no boobs he's just a boy so it counts as BL when he's paired with a guy.
>>11386>I like traps because I like the idea of a guy falling in love with someone he thought was a girl only to actually be "trapped" and have to deal with that internal mental struggle.Same. I watched Hibari-kun because it was advertised to me as the origin of this whole concept and Kousaku's gay panic was fun. I should read the manga at some point.
No.11393
>>11382I thought they were a married couple
No.11395
>>11388It bugs me when Tokiyuki is put in the same category as traps because he's just a typical male of his age for the time period and literal shotas are more androgynous by default. I guess they are bringing back the grand old tradition of lusting over wakashu.
No.11396
>>11385I tend to avoid trap stuff that's aimed at a male audience, aka flat-chested anime girl with deeper voice and a dick slapped on.
I like cross-dressing when in BL when it's cute or the guy looks male. I love feminine men and adorable outfits. I also like it when the guy is forced to cross-dress. Maybe slightly degenerate but I realized last night that I like it when the uke is fucked by a cross-dressing seme in certain situations kek.
>>11388tokiyuki is supposed to be like canonically 8 or 9, not a fucking trap. shuji is straight up just a dude too kek.
No.11398
I've been watching Sherlock Holmes-inspired anime for years now but I finally started reading the complete Sherlock Holmes collection and right off the bat this entire premise sets off my fujodar. Two men moving in together and one of them is an eccentric with questionable habits and the other guy is more traditionally-minded and wants to understand the first guy even while insulting his oddball opinions and ways of thinking.
No.11399
>>11385I don't consider it BL unless
>the boy is at least shown as a normal boy once like >>11394>boy still looks considerably masculine in some aspects If not, then it's obviously for men.
For some reason, the trap fantasy is more of a male-oriented thing I have no idea why. It's more so for bisluts/bicurious guys who aren't willing to go full homo "I love men" but want something that still looks like a woman without dealing with an actual woman.
In practice, it can make for some cute BL but it's usually never done for that purpose.
>>11395I hate when people put traps and shotas as the same thing. Shotas can look more effeminate that's true, but they're not otokonoko by default
No.11400
>>11398Some fans from when Doyle was still writing Sherlock Holmes stories already had headcanons about either Sherlock or Watson secretly being a woman and both of them being secret lovers to justify all the accidental fujobait in these books. Have fun!
No.11401
>>11400It's so interesting to consider fandom of that era but I guess some things never change.
No.11402
>>11395to be fair tokiyuki is intentionally designed to lean more androgynous. nagisa is also like this. tokiyuki’s post time skip design also has way girlier hair that doesn’t really fit the time period.
>>11394I love this manga! cool guy smitten with a loser guy is always good
>>11385I still count it as technically BL since it’s still two guys. the vibe can be extremely different when it’s a male author but that honestly can be said about male written romance manga in general. When it’s a female author it usually reads the same as any other BL
No.11403
>>11402>I still count it as technically BL since it’s still two guysSo do you consider bara BL? I don't know what the technicalities of the term are but I use BL for gay stuff written by women for women. So stuff like traps, muscles, ect are case by case for me.
No.11404
>>11388I've never heard of Hibari-kun and your description of it sounded funny, so I looked it up on wiki and it is so TRA'ed that it's hard to read.
I dislike most crossdressing/trap stuff because I find the outfits ugly. You can say a lot of things about Okane ga nai, but at least Ayase had a (now dated) distinct fashion sense. I think the division between bl with crossdressing and weird trap stuff aimed at men is how fashionable the crossdresser is.
No.11406
>>11403>I use BL for gay stuff written by women for women. So stuff like traps, muscles, ect are case by case for me.I’m the same way! that’s why I said only “technically”. I think more than the character’s appearance or the author’s gender the defining point of BL for me is target demographic. BL had to be made for women or at the very least for a general audience. works made solely with men in mind are not BL.
>>11405this is honestly the best mindset. I strive to be this unbothered
No.11408
>>11385I love otokonoko like your picrel but some of the really popular ones like Astolfo are just ugly imo. I don't generally think they're BL though.
>>11403 has the right idea
No.11411
>>11410Shotus Reversus is peak and the best type.
No.11413
>>11410They should’ve added Satoru to the shotus reversus section.
No.11424
There was an drawing posted here or elsewhere of a guy getting raped in front of a girl or his presumed crush which triggered something in me. Noncon is even better when it's public ot the victim's friends or whatever are forced to watch.
No.11432
>>11410This classification should be made into a chart / list with classics like Ciel and Hanako. Pit, Sora, and other video game characters are good Schrodinger's. What are some other honorary shotas though? kek
No.11433
>>11432I would like to include Loki with the de-aged shotas. And yeah a chart would be nice, we need shota autist to make one
No.11434
>>11410maybe i'm retarded but why is scott an honorary shota?
No.11435
>>11434imo the artstyle of the comic is shota-adjascent, and his personality is very immature
No.11437
>>11434>>11435I think Scott also looks younger than the other guys in the comic barring one of the other guys. Kinda like how the shota option in a lot of Otome games are legally by all means not a shota, but compared to the other options, clearly meant to be a shota.
No.11439
>>11438and if we go further back, the progenitor of all shotas were Japanese schoolgirls doing plays
No.11440
>>11435>>11437>>11434IMO Young Neil is the shota
-adjacent option for the series Scott is too much of a manchild for me to see him as actually child-like. That being said Brian Lee O'Malley's artsyle is super cute so I see the appeal.
No.11441
>>11440He said himself that Neil was going to be a little boy but he changed it.
No.11448
If an artist always places complete focus on the uke on their ship art/nsfw art in which literally the seme is never visible aside from their dick, I assume they're either a self-inserter or they wish to fuck the uke themselves.
I hate this type of artist, even if they draw a ship I like. Why are BOTH not visible, why only the uke?
No.11451
>>11448It's kinda like how, in straight porn and hentai. the man is barely visible. He's just a floating dick for the audience to insert over. In the case of BL, I'm assuming its yume behavior considering the audience is 99% women.
No.11453
I wish tactics was actually good
No.11455
>>11453The manga or the FF game?
No.11456
>>11455The manga. I think about Haruka x Kantaro all the time but the story bores me so much.
No.11459
>>11456I remember being pretty into the plot myself and the mystery around the oni sealed in Haruka (?) which was just starting to be revealed, but then it went on forever-hiatus and was being continued on Pixiv iirc. What didn't you like in the story? With all the soap opera constantly going on with random villains of the week always trying to badtouch Haruka I found it hard to get bored.
No.11463
I'm trying to save money because the economy keeps getting worse and I developed bad habits, and when it comes to entertainment it became very easy. I check new releases for manga I like and there's almost nothing interesting or sequels are released so slowly I have no idea when they will be released in Japan, let alone where I live. I don't spend a cent on subscriptions except for the library. I have almost all the video games I want and I'm waiting for my company to give me yet another gift card for Christmas to buy the very few ones I want on consoles. I've already stopped consooming merchs.
No.11467
I wish there were more stories with fake dating but not between the end couple. Rather A and B start fake dating because A wants to make C jealous and the endgame is still A and C. I feel like usually fake dating ends with the fake datees being endgame, but sometimes I just want C to feel jealous and still have his happy ending.
No.11473
>>11463relatable, the economy is just so fucking shit, my boyfriend and I had to sell almost everything we own, we barely have time for our own hobbies, damn I wish I could have had a fujo in the 2000s and 2010s
No.11477
I love the long posts nonas make on here. It's nice to see people write so much about stories they enjoyed, hated, etc. This is really the only imageboard (or website for that matter) I go onto and expect to see something I genuinely enjoy reading (when we're not getting spammed with CP). I wish I still had stuff to contribute, but I don't have much time to do, play, or read anything these days.
No.11479
>>11477I always wish I was more eloquent in typing, I really admire the nonnas who can effortpost about their favorites and people who can write ship manifestos.
No.11484
I finished drawing porn I worked on over the past couple days, fell asleep, woke up, looked at it, and it looks awful. I hate being a beg drawfag because now I feel even more self conscious of my fetishes. But I also have to feed myself and make the very specific material I want to see. Why.
No.11486
>>11484You will get better eventually, just enjoy the process and keep drawing as many things that you like as possible.
No.11487
>>11484don't give up drawing nona, i know you can do it!