No.10098
I was thinking, why is it that someone disliking your ship hurts? Logically there is no reason for it and yet it stings a bit to be told that you like a "bad ship."
No.10099
>>10098Maybe it's because That Someone matters greatly to you so their disapproval hurts. Or perhaps you're just too invested in your ship, be it emotionally, financially or otherwise, and subconsciously associates your self-worth/identity to it, such that any negativity is taken personally.
No.10100
>>10098From my PoV, it hits the same area of your brain that relates to for example liking a certain sports team, singer or game series. Some part of you starts to wonder if you have bad taste and you were wasting your time and it could make your defensive. I feel like it's some lizardbrain human nature thing cause why else are sports hooligans and toxic Swifties a thing?
No.10101
>>10098I don't think it hurts but I'm mildly annoyed when it's a talented and prolific writer/artist at the helm of a rival ship. If you boil down fandom to its basic element, it is a collective of free, public, and shared resources (the time and ability of fans) but there is no way to control that resource. Antis and himejoshi try in futility to redistribute it away from the problematic/yaoi and so too do I wish I could put the thumbscrews on the loathsome yet talented CxA creators for the glory of AxB. I'm sane enough to never resort to the shitflinging we see in modern times but I will not deny that I completely understand why antis/himes do what they do.
No.10103
>>10102All I remember is the long haired blond guy being a lolicon obsessed with the loli catgirl. Kind of a weird trope - ikemen lolicon - that has happened enough times to be considered a trope, but it's a bucket of cold water for me every time. There was a guy like that in Doujin Work, and then the spear guy in Shield Hero who got turned into one when the author got mad he was too popular.
No.10105
>>10104> if the coaches in medalists should date each other japanese consensus seems to agree on this, because I was genuinely surprised these two have a considerable enough amount of doujins for being in a lolibait show
No.10110
>>10102I'm a fake fan because I've never seen the anime I just have bauge memeories of reading the manga when I was younger. I remember them being bishie but not yaoi bait, but I'm planning to watch the anime soon so I'll let you know if they get a yaoi gag.
No.10115
>>10112>eggs>cherriesBake some cakes, like a cherry clafouti for example.
No.10116
>Randomly encounter an artist whose OCs are mostly women with gigantic hentai tits
>Wait, is that a single male in the lineup?
>The one male character is used for BL
How peculiar. Had a similar moment when looking at a Sk8 infinity gay doujin and finding out that artist apparently also draws a long running doujin series about a nymphomaniac elf who's into monsters.
No.10117
>>10116I love tripping over artists like this because even though BL is not their main staple I know they are Real Ones.
No.10118
>>10112All I can think of in this weather is cherry ice cream.
>>10115Cherry brownies or cookies might last longer so they don't have to be eaten all at once. Brownies can be frozen without significant changes in texture (not so good with fluffier bakes), and hard cookies just go longer in general.
No.10119
>>10112For the cherries
>Black forest cakes or trifles, cherry bread, juice, jubilee, pickled cherries, cocktails or you can add it to an alcohol of your choice and use it as like a garnish for dishes For the eggs
>Egg tarts, meringue cookies, pavlova, quiches, creme brulee, angel food cakes, chocolate mousse, french toasts, egg drop soups and any other variant, omurice, making your own mayonnaise, etc. Personal reccomendation but try those korean drug eggs. I make them when I'm really lazy and not in the mood for cooking. Also do you have a garden cause I'm curious if you just throw away your eggshells or not? No.10122
>>10116I know one artist like that for satosugu. She mostly posts about it on her personal twitter account but her professional account is all about regular straight hentai with pretty women who have huge boobs and average or faceless guys. My only issue is that she's into omegaverse. I think the woman who used to post a lot of Sugimoto genderbend art with ridiculous huge breasts is also a fujoshi, she stopped posting on twitter years ago and onmy posted straight doujinshi but I found some BL doujinshi she made before that on mrm.
No.10125
>>10113>>10114>>10115>>10118>>10119All these recommendations are really good, thank you! I'll have to see what ingredients I have so I can make some stuff right away and what I need to buy to make later.
>Also do you have a garden cause I'm curious if you just throw away your eggshells or not?I don't have a garden sadly, I live in a small apartment, so I just throw them away.
No.10129
>>10128Just read the first chapter and I do see the fujo potential, especially with mc and his younger brother. I was getting possessive seme vibes from Aokaze. Judging by the cover, Nagiharu definitely chooses to go with Ibuki instead of Aokaze though, so I'm kinda excited to see where this goes.
No.10130
>>10129I automatically shipped the brothers together and lowkey forgot most people didn't when I read discussion threads. I love sports manga and brother incest
No.10131
>>10128Just at a glance, this feels too intentionally fujobait almost to the point of parody. Are all sports manga like that?
No.10132
>>10131Take the sports manga pill nona
No.10133
>>10130Well if it gets popular at least the Japanese side of the fandom will most likely have the incest ship as the most popular.
>>10131The artstyle reminds me of a bl I read a while ago. I think it was incest with different looking brothers as well. But yes, quite a few sports manga have a lot of fujobait and fanservice. Blue Lock’s a funny case to me because the one girl gets a lot of fanservice but it feels like an editor addition to try and cancel out the male fanservice and how gay the manga feels at times.
No.10134
>>10133>editor addition to try and cancel out the male fanservice and how gay the manga feels at timesThey always do that shit with the female sports club manager being a hot girl, then it goes back to being full homo
No.10137
>>10131Yes but I don't really mind. As long as it has good bait and manages to deliver on the story I'll try to support it however I can. This should probably be reserved for the wsj board (I'll do it when it reaches 3 chapters in) but JUMP lately with their recent attempts at sport series are usually not that good for fujobait. So I would like to try even if the sports genre is generally seen as doomed in the current era.
No.10143
Does anyone have a beloved piece of media that is, like, objectively homoerotic, but you just can't be fujo about it? There's a book I've loved since childhood. Even though I'm way too old for it now, it still holds a very special place in my heart, and I reread it regularly. This book is VERY unintentionally homoerotic, to the point where some reviewers even complain about how gay the main character seems. I've even recommended it as a fujo-esque book to people because it's THAT GAY, and I know it would appeal to them. There's an entire paragraph where the protagonist details another character's ass, and that's not even the main source of homoeroticism in the story. I can acknowledge all of this, but I still can't bring myself to ship the characters or anything. I know why this is, and it's kind of personal, but it's just weird because normally, I'd be all over the dynamic portrayed in the book. It's the exact shit I love, and there are other stories with a similar dynamic where I DO ship the characters. This one is off-limits in my brain, though. Images spoilered because the third picture contains a major plot detail. The others do not contain spoilers if you want to see some funny reviews.
No.10149
>>10143I was trying to think of one, but honestly while there are series that theoretically have fujo appeal to me like that I can't into like LotR it's usually because I don't care about the source material enough. I can't think of a work that I truly love that I can't be fujo about.
No.10151
>>10143Oh, I didn't think I'd see this here. I read this book as a young fujo in middle school and it changed my life to the point where I (cringely) wrote about how gay it was in my book report.
No.10152
>>10143The Outsiders to this day has a solid fujo fanbase but even when I read it in school, it never clicked with me in that way
Still a great book and a classic movie
No.10155
>>10154I wonder if it was actually gay guys trolling them or another group (I could see it being either, gay guys can be pretty funny when they're fucking with straight guys).
Funny part is that when I looked up more info about this game guys on 4chan said they would have brothels where they switched around their waifus by losing on purpose so everyone could collect CGs kek.
Uncensored CGs are on hitomi.la btw, the guy is genuinely pretty cute.
No.10157
>>10156nonna you're seeing the average /cm/ shotapedo in their full bloom, they're a complete different breed that is somehow convinced that liking shotas is a complete male-only thing that women have ruined.
The only thing I'd give them any 'credit' for though, is that it's true that "homoshos" meant for men look different from fujobaity shota (which is the fucking ugly, buzzcuty, basically a small bara but as a boy type of design).
No.10158
>>10156I don't know why they seethe about fujos so much. It has never been easier to block and filter things and people you don't like online. If fujos stopped making stuff it's not like a bunch of stuff to their taste would magically take its place.
>>10157>(which is the fucking ugly, buzzcuty, basically a small bara but as a boy type of design)This is the only flavor of gay 2d shit that is completely repulsive to me. If they want their fujo-free fandom this style will protect them haha.
No.10161
>>10157>somehow convinced that liking shotas is a complete male-only thing that women have ruined.Women literally invented shota the fuck are they talking about kek.
>(which is the fucking ugly, buzzcuty, basically a small bara but as a boy type of design).Don't forget huge eyebrows.
Default for fujo (or sometimes yume) shota is shorts, sweater vest and often sock garters or a ribbon tie.
No.10163
>>10162Most of them look more like lolis than shotas honestly, but that could also be my bias because I think the art style pretty ugly to me.
No.10164
>>10162This style/shading looks like AI slop tbh. They can keep it.
No.10165
>>10162I hate this generic gatcha character design and art style. Over-designed with 10000 tiny details with hideous color schemes.
No.10167
>>10161I remember a thread on lc describing the vibe as "tuburculosis shota" and I've been thinking about that since.
No.10169
>>10156>that one homoincel seriously believeing that """straggots""" are all closeted bisexuals and that there's enough faggots in the world to entirely fund a shota game without a single ounce of a woman ever touching itwhew /cm/ is wild, the /a/ shotafags are genuinely deranged
No.10170
>>10156What is that first poster on about? There's been a gay men's gacha game for some years now, it's just that the characters are mostly adults and a number of them furries. I was laughing recently because I saw someone post a photo of its merch in a store and ask why the cute animal keyrings were in the R18 section.
>>10162Some of these look like my own OCs… but sameified? The face shapes and bodies are almost all the same proportions. The hair styles are somehow all over the place and incredibly repetitive.
>>10167pffft.
Oh yeah on the topic of /cm/, the guys flirting and exchanging emails I reported months back still haven't been dealt with by mods. Not sure what I'm supposed to report it as if they looked at it and decided it was fine.
No.10176
>>10162>>10165ZeroERA is chinese so it doesn't surprise me there's some Hoyo similarities. I personally think they're cute.
>>10157Yeah someone in the Citruscon shota meetup channel posted a recommendation for a dlsite game called Shota x monsters(pic related) but I wasn't into the artstyle cause it reminds me of that typical muscle shota style. I want my Ciel phantomhive/Hanako-kun/Touken ranbu tantou style shotas.
No.10178
>>10176HOLY SHIT I played this forever ago on hard mode and it was one of the most immaculately balanced JRPGs I'd ever played for some reason
Even had a literal gacha machine where you spent your gold to get collectable briefs, idk what's up with the moid obsession around underwear
No.10179
>>10162Whaa? I actually feel these would appeal to women more than gay men tbh. But truth be told, its probably (a straight man) astroturfing and projecting since if you were to make these female there is no doubt straight men would be all over these characters.
No.10180
>>10179Reminds me of how I've seen people stating NuCarnival is targeted at gay men lol.
No.10182
>>10181Just replace attractive women with yaoi
No.10183
>>10181>no -Pet the dogWrong for all genders.
No.10186
I just went through almost the entire Pixiv tag for my fav ship and now I'm depressed and lacking content :( Where do you all go for fanworks? I know Twitter has the best artists but I find the userbase and site design too unbearable to spend too much time on there. I mostly lurk on Tumblr but that site is kind of dead nowadays.. Do you guys know any other JP sites or is Pixiv the biggest one? Also, the ship is from a Chinese media so I thought about looking for CN sites too but can they even post gay stuff with their laws?
No.10187
>>10186> Also, the ship is from a Chinese media so I thought about looking for CN sites too but can they even post gay stuff with their laws?They can, albeit quite limited. Lofter doesn't allow nsfw for sure (you can make an account by downloading WeChat and linking it to lofter). Weibo is so-so, I've seen people post explicit nsfw but if it has like a little censor or if the image is placed between random images that you scroll down to. Some people post on exclusive QQ groups (discord but chinese) where porn is allowed there. People use their QQ space kind of like a mini-twitter also.
No.10188
>>10186You may find something on plurk especially if it's a Chinese language media, it's a Taiwanese service and doesn't require a Chinese SNS account to register.
No.10194
>>10191This is wild because I just found out (as in, within the past hour) a VN YouTuber and reviewer I used to occasionally watch ALSO trooned out and ALSO goes by the name Claire now. I had to check to make sure he didn't also go by Protonjon and was, in fact, a different person kek.
No.10197
>>10186>Where do you all go for fanworks?Aggregators, like
>https://www.zerochan.netor
>https://danbooru.donmai.us
>but can they even post gay stuff with their laws?They can only post chaste NSFW like characters holding hands. Anything spicy goes to Twitter.
>>10191>>10194This brainrot is now a bigger scare than finding that your husband is a closeted gay. At least a homo won't demand constant validation and you won't be treated like a persona non grata for divorcing him.
No.10199
>>10194Damn. The world can be a strange place.
No.10208
>>10207This man is fucking 70 years old
No.10213
>>10212I guess I shouldn't be surprised that this actually has fanart kek.
No.10214
>>10211>>10212Didn't the Boku no Pico guy do the character designs for this or was it another kid's show
No.10215
>>10214No Yoshiten only does Hentai and mainly traps, but the director is the same Yatabe Katsuyoshi. He also directed the 2009 Anne of Green Gables reboot and Dirty Pair, very weird filmography.
No.10220
>>10217>westoids write about themselvesIs this why so many western VNs have you make a self insert while eastern don't have this feature? Also, how are you finding this shit? I can't speak a lick of japanese, chinese, and korean.
No.10221
>>10217Whenever I see that Boyfriends webcomic I find it so sad that the author felt the need to put in a self-insert as the goth because the artstyle appeals to me and in some alternate reality I probably would've read the comic and she could've just been a chill fellow fujo with an artstyle I like.
No.10222
>>10220Pixiv (JP), Lofter (CN), Postype (KR), and filtering by Chinese on AO3. If you can’t read the original language, MTL is serviceable.
No.10225
>>10176>>10178>SxMI remember playing this as a joke and ending up genuinely having fun lol. Some of the monster designs are really cute/cool too.
Ice Swordsman best boy
No.10226
>>10207I'm so glad I'm not the only ram loving fujo here (I hope he and Morty finally fuck this season)
No.10227
>>10217>East Asians write about the characters, westoids write about themselves.This is true in some way but jp/cn/kr artists self-insert too, just not in the overt western way where they completely mutilate a character to suit themselves or their views. Having been accustomed to reading JP/CN works, they're not as 'sane' as you think they are, in fact usually very aggresive in a very passive way
No.10228
>>10227Yeah they also self-insert but the type of mental illness is different. With western stuff you can only notice right away because it's so familiar to you.
No.10229
>>10220Eyeless heroines and letting you change the name is common though. I figure actually letting you customize the appearance is less of a thing because it would make CGs much more of a clusterfuck or impossible. Of course the whole western VN trend of gender neutral protagonist/insert your pronouns here etc is a different level of self insertion.
No.10231
I wish you guys would stop fellating the eastern fujos so much. If you only knew how fucking psycho they are, you'd understand it's the same level of mental illness and self-insertion as the west
No.10232
>>10231All Nip fujo respect I had went out the window when I stumbled across my first 5ch fujothread.
No.10233
>>10232I'm curious, what did you find out in there? I've seen a lot of autistic shit directly from twitter/pixiv but I've never seen 5ch fujos.
The most extreme I've seen out in the open was an artist pasting the tianmen square copypasta for every single one of their pixiv entries to "prevent" chink reposters
No.10234
>>10231Did you come from LC? The most annoying thing jp fujos do is seme/uke autism and turning every uke into a blushing maiden or a seme into a silent cool chad. They don't have gender autism like Anglosphere fandom does but mass-blocking and autistic social rituals around avoiding landmines are exhausting. The good thing JPN fujos do is recognize that yaoi is escapism and self-pandering instead of having TIFs demand muh representation or whine about le age gap.
No.10235
>>10233They were having this huge insane ship war between A/B shippers and B/A shippers and throwing whatever they could at the other side, calling them self-inserters, lookist, etc. They also openly shit on one of my favorite fanartists and talked about how gross they found her drawing mpreg and the like. Anonymity brings out the worst in people.
No.10236
>>10234No, from 4chan. The only reason why people assume the JP fujos are sane is because they can't read Japanese. CN fujos being clinically schizo is well-known. KR fujo insanity is learned solely by being in KR manhwa fandoms. KR women in general are catty for retarded ass shit like shipping or wrongthink
No.10237
>>10235Yeah they're pretty autistic, one of them blocked me because I drew a ship pic of a character they also like. No hard feelings though it’s one of those fujos with 'landmine' ships."
No.10238
tbqhdesu all fandoms and communities have their own retardation and mental illnesses. it's all about picking your poison
No.10239
>>10231I specifically like it better because the autism is in a different language I don't automatically ingest.
It's a fanart machine for me, I don't need to know how it works and it doesn't ask me to in a language I can understand.
No.10240
>>10226>>10207I'm not going to judge cause I'm a moralfag, I'm going to judge you cause I can't understand why anyone would ship a character from this terribly ugly series.
No.10241
>>10240Because much like Undertale shipping literally everything is canon so you can really play with the setting and characters. NTA btw, but I dabbled in it a bit and thought the fandom was degenerate but pretty chill it was also drama free outside of arguments on if season 3 was good or bad.
No.10243
>>10242Ugly characters can grow on you if they are sufficiently moe and/or have good enough voice acting.
But a series like R&M is so ugly that it's probably hard carried by off model fanart like the old men from Gravity Falls.
No.10245
>>10243>>10244Personally I never got the insistence thst characters must be attractive to be shipped, I get it for pornographic works but most of the time you watch a show for the premise and then the characters grow on you afterwards. Not saying you can't watch a show because someone is cute, I've done it plenty of times, but for a ship as big and "ugly" as Rick/Morty it's clear there's something there that hooked people in spite of the designs.
No.10247
>>10246The author seems insufferable, and I'm pretty sure this comic has one of the most demented gendie fanbases there is. You could probably find a lot of cute western coming-of-age bl stories on Tapas, if you're into that
No.10248
>>10246Is it just me or could you genuinely argue she's being xenophobic here? The way she's demonising an entire genre of comics made predominantly by japanese women.
No.10250
>>10209Mark is already a bad enough pick.
>>10210From the second line I knew your answer would be youtube. No matter what you search when trying to get an anime OP/ED on there you'll get full latin american dubs, sometimes even full fan ones.
>>10246It has a trans character in the main cast, and the netflix show made sure to hire a trans actress for it. Then the fandom hounded the teenage lead and threatened him until he felt forced to come out of the closet publicly. I'm fortunate that I read the comic by chance before knowing about the author, and was able to enjoy seeing a familiar setting (then it got weirder when they filmed the show somewhere I used to go tons as a kid). The show does a good job of capturing its appeal - just pure fluff romantic giddiness and minor school relationship drama. If you're not easily swayed by that or find it impossible to invest because of the character types/meta then it's not going to be much fun. I have no idea why the audience ended up as bad as it is, but I assume it's because it's so mainstream. I read it because it was in libraries here, and since the netflix show every book shop has multiple versions on their main shelves, not even the comic or YA sections. It's bound to have far more vocal teenage fans than the average western media.
>>10248She is. Specifying only Japanese category terms and calling them bad fetish erotica. She's also a they, so it's alright when
they do it.
No.10251
>>10248A lot of the "BL is fetishizing and gross" narrative has always come off as smugly xenophobic to me. It has this distinctive "those barbaric orientals don't know shit about respecting human rights and only fetishize them for entertainment and sexual gratification unlike us civilized westerners" tone to it, as if gay people didn't exist in Asia or as if Asian authors were unable to feel empathy and a sense of respect when writing these characters.
No.10253
Where is the multilevel marketing BL and why hasn't Fukumoto written it yet?
No.10255
>>10246Is she implying that all yaoi and BL contains sex? As if there weren't a myriad of topics and levels of love and intimacy. What a 'not like the other girls' writing gay male fiction' thing to say.
No.10256
>>10248She is and she's being smug about it. I, Alice Oseman, am so unlike those icky fujos because I'm a she/they and my cutesy fluffy graphic novel about gay highschoolers is totally different and ethical to read because I say so.
>>10252>straight women can't write BL because they are evil fetishizers into gay men, but if a random female author claims to be kweer (aroace in her case) that means she's a-okay! it's safe now that we know the author's pronouns and sexual preferences! this work of fiction would be terrible if the author was into sex with men instead of sex with nobody, oh no No.10257
>>10246it feels like it was made for discourse damaged teens who want to read about boys kissing (normal desire) but saw too many posts about how it's problematic and #fetishizing so they have to settle for the blandest slop imaginable that makes sure you know how unproblematic and above bl labels it is. sad!
No.10258
>>10256lmao its incredible because I feel the complete opposite about straight women writing gay fiction. Their weakest point is the romance because sometimes it does feel a bit girly or whatever. Then again I've never been much into romance and more sex-driven, but do enjoy fluff if I like the characters.
No.10260
>>10259Maybe it's a yume telling other yumes that have her husbando to fuck off? I've heard before that apparently some yumes don't like when another yume has the same husbando as them.
No.10261
>>10259I tried searching what emoji the ship represented without luck because there's too many and specific emoji search doesn't work on twitter. From what I can tell though, even in chinese
>Person likes (sun) as bottom with anyone>Specially (umbrella/sun) unreversible>Doesn't like people yumeing (sun)>Doesn't like people who like (sun) as a top>Doesn't like people who like both bottom (sun) and top (sun) simultaneously,"omnivorous" basically refers to multishippers>I don't know what the last one means but probably that there's not many fixed shippers to begin withTheir bias is probably (sun) and they don't like yumes of him or people not liking him as a bottom.
The chinese is also in a very passive aggresive way of "die if you do (any of the other things mentioned)"
No.10262
>>10261>>10260It's a genshin fujo. Umbrella = Scaramouche and sun = Aether. She's just mad about Scara bottom shippers/headcanons which is a large part of Scara content lol. Tbh putting up warnings in your profile is harmless. She does go an extra mile with the colourful curses but i won't give mind to it unless her entire TL is rt/qrts of fighting other accounts.
No.10266
>>10265>>10265>I wonder what other fandoms are surprising popular in ChinaModern DMC fandom. Also, maybe not entirely chinese, but Orb (チ) is also most popular in Japan but absolutely nowhere in the west. The tag for Orb in ao3 is deserted while japan is thriving with fanworks.
No.10267
>>10265I remember laughing pretty hard when I found out how popular the social network (yes the Jesse Eisenberg movie) was with chinese fujos
No.10268
>>10265There's ~3.5k on ff.net, going back to 2001. Slam Dunk getting big again is funny to me because I exclusively associate it with fujos older than me (and I am mid 30s).
No.10269
>>10265It's probably Taiwan rather than just China. I had a Taiwanese friend as a teen who I met through Prince of Tennis fandom. She showed me that Taiwanese anime stores had SHIT LOADS of sports shounen merch.
>>10267My favorite is always old British comedies. You don't expect Yes Prime Minister yaoi, but you will have it in Mandarin. Similarly there's over 400 fics for Jeeves and Wooster in Russian, and without checking I'm sure they are all homosexual in nature.
No.10270
>>10265>>10268One of my formative shounen. I used to tape the episodes on vhs and replay all the Sakuragi/Rukawa moments over and over again. But later on I preferred Rukawa with Mitsui or Sendoh. And who could forget Kenji and Maki. And Mitsui and Kogure!
I'm sure I also liked the sport for a brief moment lol
No.10271
>>10270>3rd picI guess it's time to give it a serious watch/read this time, unlike my middle school self. I just finished my TeniPuri/ShinTeni rewatch/reread and I'm feeling empty and craving for more spokon but modern ones don't hit me the same.
If anons have other pre-2005 spokon reccs I'm all ears!
No.10272
>>10271Its been long years and tbh there wasnt much about him. Back then the most fanservice youd get was Hanamichi throwing the ball at Rukawas butt. But I remembered that pic well lol
No.10273
>>10272>There wasn't much of himI see. Do you mean he doesn't appear that much in the series or he just doesn't get fanart/fics?
If it's the later I don't mind, I find Rukawa cute too.
As for there being fujobait, I also don't care. As long as the dudes are attractive (to my eyes) and have interesting dynamics I'll find a way.
No.10275
>>10273>>10274I love all the characters and the humor from the series so far, Rukawa's really cute. I'm glad I'm able to read such a classic ♥
No.10279
>>10278Unironically this game would be much better if it was two brothers instead.
No.10280
>>10278I also clocked the creator as a woman when I first saw a YouTuber play it and was surprised to see so many people think the creator was a guy.
>>10279I would’ve been way more invested in the game if they were brothers.
No.10282
>>10279Never cared about this game but I agree I would have changed my stance and be interested if it had been between brothers
No.10285
>>10273Yeah they do have good dynamics between the guys and there are barely any female love interests so the fujobait wasn't all that necessary back then. Just good all around fun and rivalries between the guys that always made you want for more.
As far as Kenji, yeah he didn't get much airtime but he was memorable to me either way. I didn't have access to much beside sites hosted in geocities and newsgroups so I wonder how much fanart he has.
No.10287
>>10284>>10286Oh, well somehow the design and premise still doesn't appeal to me despite liking brocon stuff. Too bad the author made an improved version with the M/F pair.
No.10288
>>10283The biggest clue was definitely that Andrew is Japanese self-insert cute but the game is very obviously western. A western male dev would've made Andrew ugly due to artstyle or a femboy. And a TIM would've made them both girls or one of them a futa. And if a TIF made it, there'd be gender nonsense mixed in.
No.10290
>>10283Pretty sure bottom right is actually unironically a braindamaged retard.
No.10293
How stupid would it be trying to commission someone that isn't in your native language? There's a small Korean artist I'm following that makes fanart of my fav manga and they recently opened their comms. I want to support them but I'm anxious that the machine translation like DeepL will get something wrong. Should I just say fuck it and hope for the best; look for other alternatives in terms of translation; or just shut down the idea all together?
No.10294
>>10293If it's on skeb you shouldn't have any issues their translator is decent. I guess it would depend how specific you want to be, if you just mainly care about getting them to draw a specific character it shouldn't be an issue.
No.10295
>>10293>koreanpapago is supposedly better for KR-EN translations. you can put the translated KR text and original EN text together. if they're confused they can translate on their own too.
No.10296
>>10278I remember watching people argue about it on another site, and it was fairly obvious she was a woman. Even looking at the VNs she made before that, she'd made several fujo-adjacent games. I have zero interest in the game, and I think it's cringe, but I'm not sure why people thought she couldn't be a woman.
No.10297
LC is down. Hopefully what happened last time doesn’t happen this time.
No.10300
There's no thread for dreams?
I had a dream of an old famicom JRPG with yaoi story. The uke was a hero on a journey to defeat the evil seme. It was early yaoi type story where the seme rapes the uke who secretly likes it. The seme had long blue hair and dressed like JRPG character from that era with huge shoulder pads and a cape. You went through some cave dungeon and the seme appeared to taunt the uke along the way. they released a remake of it and I watched some dude moralfag about it on youtube and thought I gotta play it, so I downloaded the original. Woke up and was a bit disappointed it doesn't actually exist.
No.10301
>>10300>There's no thread for dreams?You could make one!
>old famicom JRPG with yaoi storyI wish there were more BL JRPGs. I'd even be satisfied with RPG Maker games…
No.10302
>>10300And now I'm disappointed that it doesn't exist either. Why did you do this, nonnaaaa
Maybe learn to make games or something!
No.10311
>>10301>I wish there were more BL JRPGsThere are BL RPG:s? I've been feeling like playing some RPG for a while, maybe that's why I had the dream.
>>10302kek sorry nonna
Unfortunately there's not much else for the story and designing an RPG seems complicated.
No.10313
>>10311>BL RPGsThey are usually small indie games you find on sites like freem! or dlsite. Freem! even has some rpg maker default asset games where the Harold character is an uke (usually). All untranslated of course, but with textractor I'm sure you can play them and understand them. The weird thing about Japanese indie games is that a lot of them have rules to not post about the game on an anonymous forum. So I'm a little wary about posting any specific games over here.
No.10314
>>10311Like the other nona said, I was mostly thinking of the sort of random indie games you find on Freem! or itch.io. On Steam, there is one called Beloved Rapture which I've been meaning to try. I haven't played it, so I have no idea if it's good or if it contains gendie shit, but it looks a little higher effort than most.
No.10322
>>10313>>10314Thanks anons! I'll look into those
No.10325
>>10324write it in japanese
No.10328
>>10324This is so cute. I’m gonna figure out how to make these and make this one.
No.10329
>>10328Thanks you
! Here's the pattern guide, 22x71, so it has 22 base strings. It seems complicated but thankfully there's a lot of videos online on how to read alpha patterns and what each arrow means (they're just the type of knot you need).
No.10331
Does anyone else have to take breaks from yaoi? Sometimes it becomes stale and doesn't excite me that much. When I start to feel that way I go on a "diet" where I basically don't engage with any fujo content. After awhile I want to seek out yaoi again, and go back to my fujo ways.
No.10332
>>10331I definitely have media cycle. Sometimes I burn really hot for a ship and live in the tag for a few weeks, eat all that's there or revisit the classics, then go back to my play/read/watch backlog. I'm currently cooling down on the fanfic part of the cycle and have a few regular books ready for when I tap out.
No.10333
>>10331>>10332I have cycles as well and series I frequently return to, but I'm a ride or die fujo, so no matter what series I'm into at the moment I'm only interested in engaging with BL fanworks of it.
No.10334
>>10331I'm always on fujo mode 24/7 but there are times where I cool off and at most like occasional BL/ships that drop on my timeline. During that I focus more on OC writing and going through my vidya backlog.
No.10336
>>10335Eh, not all of them have to have black hair.
I've read enough to welcome a little variety in design, even if its blonde elves.
No.10337
>>10335Western China penetrates pretty far into the Middle East, I vaguely remember those blond twins from Erha being from around whatever the Kyrgyzstan area was called in ancient China.
No.10338
>>10335Tbh that doesn't seem weird? Idk all anime characters have weird hair colors, I don't read a lot of Danmei but I'd assume they're just as detached from reality.
No.10339
>>10335Chinese Tocharians, please understand.
No.10342
>>10339>>10337I've seen that excuse but chinese tocharians were buddhists or followed an Iranic religion and had a culture similar to central asia then anything chinese,
No.10343
>>10331I don't actually consume much yaoi in general, unless I'm specifically in the mood for sex and romance. I just tend to watch normal media and usually a dynamic will spark my interest once more.
Ever since I was young I've found sex and romance to be off putting unless its between guys.
>>10335Cute. Is this BL?
No.10344
>>10343NTA but yes that's a BL danmei novel (The Husky and His White Cat Shizun)
No.10345
>>10344Nice. Are the twins also paired up or are they straight? When I looked up the image it described them as womanizers so I was immediately put off and made me ask about the series.
No.10350
this is completely random but does anyone have that image of a meme that is an anime girl going from happy -> jaded and depressed as she grows up? sometimes it gets edited to be the first impression of the internet with LOL 100 INTERNETS XD and then as more time spent on the internet it changes to pepes and smh tbh famalam etc. I swear I've seen it so many fucking times but I don't know how it's called and I can't fucking find it
No.10352
>>10351I miss the shiggy diggy era tbh.
No.10359
>>10351yes that's the one, thanks anon
>>10358it was simpler times, it was cringe then and it'd still be seen as cringe now but at least it was sincere in it's stupidity unlike modern ironic cynicism
No.10361
>>10360Same. I remember when internet wasn't ridden with open and aggressive bigotry in the 00's, sure there were "go back into the kitchen" and n-word jokes and the overall structural misogyny, racism and homophobia found everywhere but it wasn't as blatant and unapologetic as it is now and was often done as a sincere crude joke because as weird as it sounds to youngsters of today, imageboards used to be very liberal and left leaning then. I could sperg about gamergate all night and how detrimental it was to the society at large because I was there when it happened and saw how it was co-opted by actual nazis and white supremacist grifters like Milo Yiannopoulos (who used his supposed homosexuality as a shield all the time and now he's "reformed" as a straight man), but the less people know about the "movement" the better imo.
No.10362
>>10361To this day I don't know what Gamergate was about and neither do I care. And I've been a 4chan user since 2011.
>>10252>bl is an asian genreWhat other pantsu-on-head retarded takes does that user have?
No.10363
>>10357There are no star crossed lovers here, nonna
Unless someone has any BL examples? I prefer mine to have happy endings
No.10366
It will always be funny to me that Five nights at freddy's was made because a christian game dev was told his wholesome characters were creepy. It's just the way that he struck gold pretty much on accident.
No.10375
>>10374What's the worst that could happen if you shared them here for others to help you out? Just do it, don't think about it too much.
No.10376
>>10375I have shared a few in the writing thread, I'm actually working on another now which is what's prompting my frustration since I can just tell I'm not getting my mental image properly articulated.
No.10383
>>10382It is a bit of an odd choice. I love me the classic experienced older man with a younger man kind of relationship. But even being the older man or a warrior does not exempt you from bottom lel
I still prefer the original dynamic. But honestly it would have been even better if it had been Set/Osiris and made them both verse.
No.10384
>>10383you can have incest, since they are gods and even male gods in egyptian myths gave, although it is difficult to say which elements of egyptian mythology that are recorded were meant as serious religious texts and which were jokes/satire, there are many ancient egyptian texts that were in fact just dirty jokes like this
>The god Baba got up and said to Pre-Harakhti: "Your shrine is empty!'" Then Pre-Harakhti felt offended by the answer given him, and he lay down on his back, his heart very sore. Then the Ennead came out, shouting loudly at Baba and saying to him: "Go away; you have committed a very great crime!" And they went to their tents. The great god spent a day lying on his back in his pavilion, his heart very sore and he was alone. After a long while, Hathor, Lady of the southern sycamore, came and stood before her father, the All-Lord. She uncovered her nakedness before him; thereupon the great god laughed at her. He got up and sat with the great Ennead; and he said to Horus and Seth: "Speak for yourselves!" No.10385
>>10384Thanks for sharing but you lost me with that story.
No.10388
>>10362from what I can tell gamergate was a scandal where a female game developer slept with a game journalist for a good review. idc about gamergate itself but I think it contributed to censorship on Reddit and the cancerous internet we have today
No.10389
>>10385A god is depressed because he has few followers so a goddess strips naked for him and improves his mood, I think a better example in the same story would have been where seth raped horus. there's a scene where the two gods transform into hippos and fight in the nile. horus's mother Isis, tries to use a harpoon to help horus but accidentally hits him with it. scenes like this have convinced some historians that this particular version was written as a crude parody.
No.10390
>>10389Oh ok but regardless I personally have an aversion to het incest, and in particular father/daughter. Its just not for me.
I do have some knowledge on Set/Horus since I would try to find as many gay myths as I could when I was young.
Thanks anyway.
No.10391
>>10390It's not actual incest; the gods are supposed to represent aspectual concepts, so horus represents egypt, but specifically the egyptian pharaoh, and seth represents the barbarians. that's why Seth can have both black skin (referring to the nubians) and light skin (referring to the berbers), because he is the manifestation of egypt's enemies.
No.10392
>>10391I thought Seth was just a representative of lower Egypt, not an enemy of all Egypt. Regardless, its fine I'm not here to discuss ancient mythology (there's a better thread for that). We were just talking about MLM dynamics.
No.10393
>>10392The point is that it's a odd decision, like you said older males can be bottoms, but seth isn't just older, seth actually did rape horus in the telling and horus is described as physically weaker compared to seth, so it's bizarre the author just ignored that
No.10395
>>10391That's a very Middle Kingdom interpretation. Seth wasn't god of the foreigners in the the predynastic and Old kingdom.
No.10396
>>10393Im almost certain the story went that Seth asked Horus to wait for him in bed and Horus asked his mother's advice what to do and she told him to do it so that he could catch his semen.
There is no rape if he willilingly goes and it was also intercrural sex.
Repeating that he was raped is wrong, which doesnt seem to be your only time in this thread. Give it a rest already.
No.10397
I draw a lot of NSFW of my OTP and I had to stop showing it to one of my friends because she always made it weird and started commenting stuff like "I wish that was me being fucked like that by the seme" and "I wish I was in place of the uke" girl I don't want to hear it! I guess I'm flattered that she thinks the porn I make is hot but I always felt uncomfortable hearing it because the OTP is so important to me and I don't want to separate them or mix in my friend's sexual fantasies nor hear them to begin with. Other people comment on how I portrayed them both and that I enjoy a lot but please don't start talking about yourself in between them or other bizarre crap like that.
No.10398
Due to local regulations there's certain gacha games that are unavailable in my region and I can't be bothered to jump through hoops to try these games out. I'm torn between being annoyed at how my country is being petty about digital gambling even though real casinos exist here and the feeling of "Well it's fine cause I shouldn't be wasting my time on gacha games anyway." Guess it comes down to me not being entirely immune to FOMO when seeing people around me having fun with Pokemon masters ex and the horse girl game.
No.10399
>>10398It's frustrating when there's so much good art and fanworks for those games. You can take solace in the fact that almost all of them have a "wall" and are designed to force money after a while. I totally get the FOMO though, it'd be better if more people were spending time on non-gacha games lol.
No.10400
>>10398At least for Masters you can just watch all the story cutscenes on Youtube if you care about that. The only thing you're really missing out on is being able to make a photo of your OTP kissing in a children's game and risk getting banned. The social interaction aspect is almost non existent compared to other gachas.
That, and the 3d model viewer makes it a pretty solid art reference for some of the more stupid hairstyles in the franchise.
No.10401
>>10396There is a version where Seth was the seducer and Horus agreed. He talks about Horus' ass and thighs. I bet anon doesn't know that they were switches and that it's in the pyramid texts kek
No.10403
>>10402This has to be a troll, it's way too facetiously overboard with the schizoposting.
No.10404
>>10402>>10403Way too on the nose lel
I was looking at art of this pairing yesterday and thought they look really good in either order. But saw too many tragic ones, boo ;(
No.10406
I like to come up with little scenarios in my head sometimes about my nendos interacting and infighting/playing amongst each other.
Anyone else do this with their figures or nah
No.10408
>>10401>There is a version where Seth was the seducer and Horus agreedWhat are you talking about? we only have one version from the chester beatty papyri, did you mean a different translation?
No.10410
Wanting to browse fc on holiday but don't want the CP spam turning up on the rental's wifi so I'm forced to use my phone data, rip.
>>10397That shit always messes with me, and I get where people misunderstand the boundary of it. When I write lewd greentext type comments it's always acting
upon the character, but when people talk about being acted upon themselves it's suddenly forcing people to think of their real ningen body in a compromising and intimate position. Had one girl who'd always reply with shit talking about her body and it was the biggest turn off I've ever experienced, and I don't think she understood because I was okay with "ywn bend him over the kitchen counter and stick a cucumber up him, why live" kind of comments that
sound like POV self insertion, but are easily mob/other character proxy actions. If they're not fujominded they don't assume the same as me that a nondescript actor or character is doing it on my behalf, they don't realize you can't stomach literally them, a 3D entity.
Also saying that to a known OTP is downright rude, beyond just misunderstanding mental boundaries, that's disregarding one half of someone's efforts to represent a couple. The uke is not a mindless husk, you are characterizing them both and both should be respected.
>>10398Master sex is a massive time sink if you want to complete dailies for free gems, and the gacha part can be horrendously bad odds for faves, not to mention so many events lately you can't collect the rewards without having rolled the specific unit of that event. The story cutscenes are often just serviceable excuses for costumes and new battles to use stamina on, so you really aren't missing much. It's much better to look up characters you want to see on youtube and check if there was any dialogue worth seeing, otherwise it's very, very repetitive.
Lodge interactions too, you only gleam so much extra info on a character's preferences by their reactions, and then it's a daily chore you can't give a shit about.
>>10406I pose my plushies like they're squabbling over snacks or hiding around the house…
No.10411
>>10410>I pose my plushies like they're squabbling over snacks or hiding around the house…That's so cute please post
No.10413
>>10410>Master sex is a massive time sink if you want to complete dailies for free gems, and the gacha part can be horrendously bad odds for faves, not to mention so many events lately you can't collect the rewards without having rolled the specific unit of that event. The story cutscenes are often just serviceable excuses for costumes and new battles to use stamina on, so you really aren't missing much. It's much better to look up characters you want to see on youtube and check if there was any dialogue worth seeing, otherwise it's very, very repetitive.I agree the game is super repetitive, but the daily 80 gems is only a few minutes if you just do the bare minimum (dump stamina into something + orb area + daily scout), I don't play other gachas but I thought it wasn't that bad compared to what I've heard about others. And you can collect event rewards, it just takes more days of stamina dumping if you're stuck with only 1.2x characters. Not that it's really worth it on the new style of events because I don't want the exclusive items for characters I'm never going to use + the important stuff (coins) is in the battle challenges anyway.
Tangent but I really wish Lodge was better. Just 2 stories per character is weirdly low and the images you get all look traced over the 3d models but with wonky as fuck proportions. There's only a small handful that look half decent.
But also the struggle where you both want and don't want your fave guys in Lodge because the yumebait makes you uncomfortable but you'll get the free new pair. At least it's a kids game so they call it 'friendship' and (You)r character is a 10 year old and doesn't exist outside this game…
No.10424
"To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, other men. In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or paternalism; what passes for honor is removal to the pedestal. From women they want devotion, service and sex.
Heterosexual male culture is homoerotic; it is man-loving."
Marilyn Frye, from her book The Politics of Reality: Essays in Feminist Theory
No.10426
>>10420Didn't the writer also release a spin-off that was like actual yaoi? I haven't gotten around to reading it yet, but it's on my list.
No.10427
>>10399>>10400>>10410Honestly in the end I'm just gonna let go of my FOMO cause it's fine this way. When it launched there was a point where I considered trying out Persona 5 the phantom X but then I decided against it and today the algo sent me a video where someone's review was basically "This is just a rehashed slop version of Persona 5" which actually isn't surprising to hear at all. The same video inspired me to get rid of Infinity nikki cause in the long run I could do better than that too if I want a cozy open world game.
No.10430
>>10410>Also saying that to a known OTP is downright rude, beyond just misunderstanding mental boundaries, that's disregarding one half of someone's efforts to represent a couple. The uke is not a mindless husk, you are characterizing them both and both should be respected.Nonna you get it. I felt like a schizo being so offended over those comments that she probably meant as compliments but she's essentially treating the bottom as an interchangeable object rather than the second half of an established couple that I'm really invested in and that hurt my feelings.
>I pose my plushies like they're squabbling over snacks or hiding around the house…That's so adorable kek
No.10435
>>10426ayrt
yes she did, 3 of them i think, theyre all pretty good but i might be biased because i really like her other works awswell
No.10455
>>10443she's hasn't spoken anything for or against troonism, but her work has been included in various tra websites, something they'd need her permission to link
No.10458
>>10097rereading harry potter and randomly got the flustered "i ship them" energy attack when reading about harry and ron's fight… lol
No.10472
>>10458Harry/Ron have a lot of potential for shipping especially with a jealousy angle if you factor in Ginny or Hermione though I've always been a basic bitch Draco/Harry fan.
No.10474
>>10472Love both. Can't decide if Harry x Draco or Draco x Harry is hotter. I'm leaning towards Draco getting noncon'd by Harry and getting humiliated by taking dick from his rival. Or maybe them falling in love against their will without any whumping. Angsty Cedric x Harry is good too. But now I'm kinda fujoing out and want Ron and Harry to get married. Or maybe Draco and Harry. My heart is confused. Ron and Draco?! kek
I can't get enough of sex pollen scenarios where a love potion explodes on Draco (or Ron) and Harry and then have sex but become horrified at what they did in heat… I want to write my own now even that's been done so many times before that it's practically its own subgenre kek.
Maybe I'll insert my own fetishes in to stand out No.10477
With that anti-porn radfem group's lobbying continuing to fuck shit up with payment processors, I'm worrying about Ao3 because they rely on donations from users to stay up.
No.10478
>>10477I'm hoping the donation status is what protects it. Right now it seems like the payment processors have issues with the exchange of money for a pornographic product. The OTW (which is what the donation is to) is a big umbrella that includes Ao3, so maybe that will obfuscate it for a while. I'm always a little anxious whenever this payment processor stuff comes up because you know there is somebody out there waiting to rat Ao3 out to the government like those insane yumes did in China. Every time the donation link is up on the site people cry about it.
No.10479
>>10474Not into Harry Potter but I like the fics where they either make Cedric and Edward from Twilight into a couple or make them the same person
Ironic that I have yet to see it with Winslow (the lighthouse) or Bruce because those were the most homo roles I’ve seen Robert Pattinson in…
No.10480
>>10477As much as I appreciate swerfs and anti-porn radfems for being against the mainstream porn industry that exploits women, I hate how so many of them refuse to realize that it’s unfortunately not a black and white issue because eventually smut books and books with taboo subjects will be targeted because once you give an inch they take a mile, they need look no further than China and how they’re targeting women that write danmei. I think ao3 will be fine for now though like
>>10478 said because of its status. But for non-Americans (maybe even non-New Yorkers in general), I don’t think we’re far from seeing bans of ao3 in other countries if it gets put on blast in front of government officials. And I can only hope ao3 never requires an ID verification to access like mainstream live action porn sites in my state require.
No.10482
>>10480>not a black and white issueIt's why I can't support them even though I have pretty draconian opinions about 3DPD sex. Once the ball gets rolling it's going to roll over the harmless stuff (drawings, literature) because the gooners who sense that they are going to lose access to 3DPD material and puritans who want it all gone are not going to let 2d escape.
No.10483
>>10472>>10474Insane the one time I check fujochan I see a convo about my current hyperfixation, anyways the only thing I've been doing is reading harry x draco fanfic and spending the past couple months saving fanart I personally love
I personally don't ship harry/ron however i can see and understand it because Harry basically canonically marries a genderbent version of his best friend, very funny to me
I love fics that mention how Cedric is harry or dracos gay awakening, i can see it
When I'm not fujo'ing out over drarry I'm being autistic about their sons Albus/Scorpius, I don't know if anyone has watched the play or read the book but they're sickeningly faggoty, I love them
A guilty pleasure of mine is combinations of either Albus/Draco or Harry/Scorpius
anyways I'm filled to the brim with fic recs if anyone gaf, otherwise I enjoy yapping lol
No.10484
>>10480>, I hate how so many of them refuse to realize.Nonny, no. These groups are all right-wing puritans wearing feminist trenchcoats, they ALSO want porn aimed at women to disappear.
No.10485
>>10483>Albus/Scorpius, I don't know if anyone has watched the play or read the book but they're sickeningly faggoty, I love them A guilty pleasure of mine is combinations of either Albus/Draco or Harry/Scorpius
I haven't read cursed child but I've vicariously learned about them from Darry fics lol. Is it worth checking out outside of just ship context?
>I love fics that mention how Cedric is harry or dracos gay awakening, i can see it So do you like GoF being the starting point of the relationship or do you picture a different book? Personally I like the idea of Draco having an immediate crush during the first book and being miffed Harry doesn't return his offer of friendship, but I don't have a strong preference for when the two should get together. I've seen plenty of post-canon fics now where the get together after one of their wives dies/divorces them and I've been enjoying those.
No.10489
>>10485
>Is it worth checking out outside of just ship context?hrmmmm, I've read both the book and watched the play, I have complicated feelings for it, I personally like it but I know everyone and their mother hates cursed child People hate Albus's teenage angst with his father and people dislike the way Harry is written, I personally like it, but I'm a sucker for a trope where a father is lost and doesn't know how to deal with a kid who hates him. I think the Scorpius/Albus yaoi is very very good in it, in the play the actors want them to be canon but can't so they'll do tight lingering hugs that look like a near fake out kiss, adjusting eachothers ties while saying 'see you at dinner', and rubbing their foreheads together. I read it for fujo reasons and was content with what I was given.
>So do you like GoF being the starting point of the relationship or do you picture a different book?For me personality I like them getting together after school happens when they're adults, all my fav fics are based in post canon. I'm fatigued from fics of them getting together during school because my stupid ass back to back read a 600k fic and then a 1.2million word fic during that era lmfao
>I like the idea of Draco having an immediate crush during the first book and being miffed Harry doesn't return his offer of friendshipDraco is so fucking funny, he gets rejected once and then makes it everybody's problem for 7 years
No.10491
Really feeling the time struggle when trying to keep up with my videogame and anime watching backlog. Though I can probably make anime lower priority cause I find videogames more engaging.
No.10492
>>10489>Draco is so fucking funny, he gets rejected once and then makes it everybody's problem for 7 yearsIt really exemplifies just how petty he is even of you don't interpert that in a shippy sense he's still a little pest, honestly one of the most unintentionally(?) funny things in the series.
No.10493
>>10492oh he is SO petty, i remember reading a tumblr post perfectly describing him and it always stuck with me
>Draco bullies like a mean girl. He's never physical or violent, and it's actually highlighted that he backs down from fights (or is flattened, usually by Ron.) Instead, Draco spreads rumors and embarrassing stories, he baits/tricks people into breaking the rules, runs smear campaigns, flashes his wealth and does a lot of pointing and sochinchining from within a group of people.
>He also gets beats like "crying in the bathroom" (otherwise seen with girls like Myrtle and Hermione) and "poisoning" (otherwise only seen from Nagini - very specifically a girl giant snake. and arguably Romilda Vane (spiking food with love potion) and Umbridge (spiking tea with Veritaserum.) Which is probably why many people read him as gaytldr; he's funny
No.10499
>>10498Second imo.
You're brave nonna, you don't fear someone accidently looking over your shoulder in public?
No.10500
>>10499>you don't fear someone accidently looking over your shoulder in public?Did they want to look at yaoi too?
No.10511
>>10498Heartening to see there is at least one other fujo in PDX. Every weeaboo I've met here is too dang normie, even the girls. I like left more.
No.10512
>>10511I know the feeling, I've met a couple other VN girls here but most of the weebs here just like basic tumblr stuff like sailor moon.
No.10513
>>10480I don't like how radfems are censorship happy for fiction. But I'm critical of the porn industry and think that prostitution should be illegal. Pragmatically people will always exchange sex for money privately or post pictures of their assholes online, but it makes me sick to see red light districts in Europe. I love ao3 and hope it stays unchanged forever.
No.10514
>>10483Second ARYT please give fic recs and sperg out nona. I'm obsessed with Drarry (and Rarry) but their dads sound amazing too
No.10515
>>10514goodness gracious lord help me lmfao </3
OKAY I ended up typing everything onto a notepad link because I accidentally yapped too much to fit on here, thank you for indulging me anon, enjoy :>
http://notepad.link/share/TDHC0CXq9aG4C04Yx2rl No.10517
>>10484Yeah most of them hate yaoi for "brainwashing girls into pornsickness and trooning out" as if there weren't any less frivolous underlying issues that could cause a young girl to do so. And when you bring this up, their response is that "it's because they have internalized misogyny and hate seeing healthy heterosexual relationships", already making a multifaceted issue into a crude simplification but also a circular argument claiming that yaoi inherently makes girls think they're hypersexual gay men. Correlation doesn't imply causation, it's like saying that allowing women to wear pants or short hair makes them transition into men. To me their hatred always came off as either complete ignorance regarding the genre (usually the offline boomers who see only cherrypicked rape scenes and out of context descriptions that more online radfems show them) or straight up homophobia in more ways than one i.e. the overall disgust of the portrayal of gay male relationships but *also* the disgust of women being gender-nonconforming which is often associated with homosexuality.
No.10518
>>10515Thank you!!!! I'm taking my friend to the doctor for surgery today, so I know what I'm doing in the waiting room ♥
No.10519
>>10513I am anti porn industry too but all the anti porn people i've seen on x are gendies posting furry fanart and stuff like that while crying about yaoi fangirls or anime waifus, they don't care about women.
No.10521
>>10517At the end of the day, everyone is under some sort of brainwashing including the very hetero guys who are afraid of intimacy beyond sticking their dick in a girl hole.
People will seek out that which just calls out to them, probably for a reason.
No.10522
>>10518awesome, I hope you like at least one of them :') ♥
No.10525
>>10523Oh my god I had a college friend who suddenly went like this at an otome adaptation that had fucking vampires and werewolves in it. She even said we couldn't watch any more anime with demons/devils in any more because it was disrespecting Christianity when Japan did it.
No.10526
>>10523I'm catholic and I just don't get these people.
I kind of understand the ones that feel uncomfortable with priest x underage character since it happens in RL but at the end of the day nobody's forcing them to finish reading the story.
As soon as they saw the signs they should have closed the tab or skip the whole chapter(s)/story.
Also, please share the source of this comments' whinning. I wanna see how fucked up this thing is or if they're being babies kek
No.10527
>>10526I'm Catholic too and have very mixed feelings haha. Really most Japanese stuff is so far removed from the religion it's all aesthetics and doesn't bother me, if anything I wish they played into the taboo nature of breaking celibacy since most yaoi just plays it as a "good vs. evil" thing with priest x demon. That being said if it's in a church or uses a crucifix I find that offensive and stop reading. Leaving a comment is only going to upset people, but personally it is distasteful and not for me.
No.10528
>>10526I saved these screenshots a while ago and I have been hesitating to post them because I didn't know if posting it would upset anyone, so I don't remember the source on all of them (I didn't even read all of them because I was looking through the comments of manga tagged with "priest" for something specific). The second one was from Dear, My God from Asada Nemui. I think the fourth was Acid Flower by Amasaki Yoshimi, but I haven't read it so I don't know for sure.
>>10527I get that, but I don't get why someone would explicitly go to read Priest Yaoi if they don't like seeing that kek.
>the taboo nature of breaking celibacyThis is unfortunately what I was looking for when reading the comments…
No.10531
>>10528After a small search, I found out the rest. First one is Beheader by paji_art and third is Fruit of the Tongue by Money. Fourth is indeed Acid Flower, judging by the comments on batoto about it being unfinished.
Omw to see if they're that deplorable, I already started Acid Flower and so far it's old run-of-the mill 00's BL with age gap and Christianity.
>>10527No, I get it. It is offensive and I would only continue reading if the source material treats such acts as just that. Otherwise I won't be able to see the taboo of the relationship and the whole thing just ends up too edgy for me.
No.10533
>>10523This reminds me of how my favourite sebaciel smut fics involve them having sex on an altar. Good times.
>>10527>Really most Japanese stuff is so far removed from the religion it's all aesthetics and doesn't bother meOne of my favourite parts of the Nasuverse is how chuuni the church is handled. One of the characters in Tsukihime has a stake gun that uses the holy scripture as ammo.
No.10537
>>10536This is probably just the internalized sexism talking but until AI can meaningfully contribute to hetero domestic partnership I don't think it will "replace" women. All AI can do is emotional needs. It's like a LDR with no meatspace goal date. The whole point of pairing up is to build a life together, which statistically is better for men than it is for women. Because of this I agree with what you said and that men should be the ones worried about being replaced.
And yeah as fujos I think we are all pretty well protected from AI–just artisanal human-crafted OTP fanfic for me, thanks.
No.10538
>>10536Frankly imo if they really enjoyed it then they'd talk about it instead of just complaining about women. The fact that they can't shows that they're more mad that it isn't working for them than happy about it. I wish it would, if only they could finally shut up. Instead it just makes them more angry, depressed, and psycho.
I think the fact that husbandos can actually work for some women makes it worse, they want to deny it because admitting that mean it really is just them and not because women.
Real thousand yard stare shit.
No.10539
>>10523I grew up with Christianity and grew to hate it so I didn't care about stuff like this. But you know what? I get it now in a way.
If I had a religion or myth I really loved that involved a connection between two men, and suddenly women and lesbians were using their personal symbolism for themselves, I'd be pretty offended about it lol
No.10542
>>10536>AI girlfriend GrokSorry for the stupid question, but asking as someone who doesn't use Twitter, how is this meaningfully different from Replika or any of the other AI Girlfriends that came before it?
No.10548
Is it normal to move on once a old pairing ain't doing for you? Not like in a fast fashion way. Think of it as someone moving on once a series's well starts to dry up that even fanon gets on your nerves. Happens a lot of times, mostly 2 years in on a bad day.
No.10550
>>10548I would say that's the norm, how long it takes to move on depends on each fan and each pairing though. Are you the type to never care again even after rewatching, rereading or replaying what the characters are from though? Or are you talking about what I'm thinking about and it's just that you still like the pairing but you stop thinking about them until someone else mentions it and it makes you still a bit nostalgic when that happens?
No.10553
>>10551I knew Genshin fujos were starved but not this starved…
No.10554
>>10551I don't play Genshin. Is this a Onceler situation where the dark haired guy is the evil version of the blonde guy?
No.10555
>>10550Latter. I use to love a lot of things, but once life got in the way, It just slipped out my rotation. I still revisit old stuff I love but I know it'll never be same as I first saw it.
No.10556
>>10554>Onceler situationlmfao
The dark haired guy is a brand new dude we know nothing about outside of his appearance/job and the blonde guy is a guy who we've known a little bit about since launch day but only recently had his full design revealed.
I don't understand these people either.
No.10557
>>10554>Onceler situation where the dark haired guy is the evil version of the blonde guyI don't remember any blonde guys in Lorax but I watched it long ago. Isn't this trope rather common in fiction?
No.10558
>>10551Varka infatuated with someone from Fatui? One of Harbingers or grunts?
No.10559
>>10558He had some run-ins with Capitano and people thought they were going to be the fujobait ship in Natlan but that was before the moidevs retconned the original Natlan story to shill Mavuika and off-ed Capitano in her place.
No.10560
>>10559Bummer, thanks for summary I left before Natlan's patch
No.10565
>>10557Sorry, in my initial post, I was asking if people people are shipping the blonde guy from Genshin with his evil alternate version like people did with The Onceler in 2012 (I thought the blonde guy and dark haired guy were the same person pre and post Evil Arc because they look very similar aside from hair color).
>>10556Thanks, nona! That is weirder than what I initially thought was happening, and I assume it'll set them up for disappointment when his actual personality is revealed.
No.10566
>>10551I'm a hoyoverse fujo but good lord this makes me so embarrassed. You know literally nothing about the dark-haired guy and even all we know about Varka has been delivered through vague tidbits from other characters, I get the appeal of being "the first" at the scene but this is literally what Mihoyo is banking on. They're not going to deliver because fujos will settle with the tiniest bit of pandering and base a hundred doujins on one headcanon pulled from thin air. They stuffed Nod-krai (the new upcoming region) full of sexy barely clad waifus and lolibait, Columbina (a new ethereal waifu that's going to be a Kiana Kaslana expy from Honkai Impact 3rd, their pet game) is going to be their main push for the entirety of 6.x, they're not going to give you anything with Varka and Flins besides tiny crumbs just like they did with Ororon and Ifa (the ship that fell completely flat on its ass because nobody cared and everyone liked capitano x ororon more). There will never be another HaiKaveh or KaeLuc in the game.
Overall I hate the tendency of hoyoverse fans making their own pre-release headcanons because they always get mad when the canon doesn't correspond to their expectations, this isn't just something the fujos do but literally everyone in the fandom. Everyone is so hooked on the games mihoyo put out because they're literally everywhere and there are no alternatives to migrate to unless you want to settle with a subpar predatory PNG collector so they desperately try to make it fulfill all their needs.
No.10573
>>10551>>10553>>10556>>10566To be honest yuritards and hetfags act the same way, (example Columbina and Arelechino and Aether harem slop), so I'm not that embarrassed about this. I'm more embarrassed that people keep playing genshit lmao. I do agree that it's annoying when they get mad that the new character they make headcanons for doesn't meet their expectations.
I don't understand why people who like lots of lore keep playing hoyo games (especially genshin) when they barely give the fans anything but vague tropes to work with. Genshit is so bland and barely any of the characters interact outside of the main story. Most of the fans don't even read the story(they're so dumb some of them think that Alice's husband is, is Varka or the traveler or that she just created Klee like a homunculus even though Klee and others have talked about her father). The fandom is purely lives on the delusional fumes of the fans making shit up. Also they're starting to go down the gooner path with recent designs. I say that Star rail is still the best for fujos. Some people are trying to sell ZZZ yaoi but I think they're idiots for being tricked so easily.
I also think female fans should execpt that hoyo only keeps males to filter out mentally ill moids and yuritards after they went insane after the Hi3rd considered making playable males. They don't really care about female fans.
>Columbina (a new ethereal waifu that's going to be a Kiana Kaslana expy from Honkai Impact 3rd, their pet game)I stopped playing genshin like 3 years ago.(but I like to check to see if anything has happened). I thought that the goddess we met at the beginning was Kiana as the Herrscher of Finality? I just don't see how Columbina is Kiana. The characters from the 'Teyvat Chapter Interlude Teaser: The Gods' Limits' Trailer all give female Kaslana vibes so I think it fits better.
No.10575
>>10573> I thought that the goddess we met at the beginning was Kiana as the Herrscher of Finality?I got news for you, she was one of the four shades of the Heavenly Principles and they're all Kiana expies and so will Columbina be. Yes, they went there.
>I say that Star rail is still the best for fujos. Some people are trying to sell ZZZ yaoi but I think they're idiots for being tricked so easily.Honestly most Star Rail yaoi is copium too but ZZZ fujos are the most desperate people I've seen. I feel sorry for them.
No.10576
>>10575I imagine most people into ZZZ yaoi like it because they like the game first right? I haven't seen people try to shill it for BL but I have seen people try to shill Genshin/Honkai purely for yaoi which seems so unappealing as an outsider I'm not going to play a gacha for shipping material.
No.10577
>>10575Oh, I see, thanks for explaining. I'm surprised they're all Kiana the three Heavenly principles in the trailer gave expy Cecilia, Durandal, and Siren vibes. Which I guess could still make sense since
Cecilia and Siren's memories and will live through Kiana, and Durandal is the OG Kiana
>Honestly most Star Rail yaoi is copiumI think they have more to work with than other games. They give a lot of content for Phainon/Mydei, Aventerine/Ratio, and Blade/DanHeng to add on if you wanna ship the male mc with anyone I think you have enough to work with. The rest of the ships are definitely copium, though.
Meanwhile in genshin the only thing I can think of is HaiKaveh. Kaeluc is a ship they're more hush-hush about because it pissed off the westerners.
>>10576The only ship they have to sell is Hugo and Lycaon. They say that in the story there's a canon yaoi fic of them? They do push the ship but only enough not to piss on the Belle/Yume and moid crowd.
The game is really stylish and smooth and has a 'bouncy' cartoony animation style. So a lot of people like it for that. But it's mostly a waifu game. I did a light/messy count of the roster and there are about 29 girls and 8 guys with two being a whole ass bear, not even furry-like like Lycaon, a brown bear and a panda. It's confirmed that there's one upcoming male and one speculated guy. However, there are at least 6 more girls who are speculated to come out in the next area. I don't know what zzz fujos see in the game lmao.
>I'm not going to play a gacha for shipping material.Yeah, I fully understand that. It just sucks that most of the fujos are there right now. I'm so bored that I'm having trouble even day dreaming. I miss it when the majority were on jrpgs (or the more niche card game yaoi).
No.10578
>>10576I still play ZZZ and the yaoi can be described as tempting but kind of mid. Nearly every guy you'd want to see fuck in that game simps for the MC too much to be shipped with each other (even the troubled past friends-to-enemies pair, Lycaon and Hugo imo) so when their plot relevance ends and the MC moves on to the next gaggle of banner characters it's not particularly compelling. Brainrot is brainrot and I do not doubt the authenticity of the ZZZ fujos' love of Lighter/Wise because he says some pretty romantically charged shit, but it's hard to let yourself get into it when you know how swiftly gachashit rosters inflate and how irrelevant everybody becomes as the story progresses.
No.10581
>>10577Agh, I hate furry shit so much. There is another pairing kinda like that from Honkai - Hanunue and Mikhail. I rather like the idea of Gallagher being human Hanunue, at least that's more tolerable lol
I don't play any of these gachas but I started looking into some of these pairings after the HaiKaveh KFC collab.
I also really like PhaiDei (or MyPhai) a lot!
No.10582
I really need to stop debating people who make it their life's mission to start shit. I just embroiled myself into the whole itch.io deindexing nsfw drama and the amount of nonnas on that other site who think all games(including nsfw yaoi content) deserves to be purged cuz "me tired of everything horny" excuse. Not everyone there are prudes who hate anything lewd but I can't help but shake the feeling these people would only let you be horny if you're having sex for real because how dare someone want to write fictional sex instead of being another babymaker…
No.10583
>>10582Why are people so stupid? The horny problem we have is in popular works like shows for the masses, music, video games, advertisement, literally anything *but* niche genres dedicated to romance and sex.
I need those lewd and horny works to breathe. They can just filter them out dammit.
No.10584
>>10583Me neither. It's like they want to make their hangups with sexuality everyone else's problem. There's so many countless bills, acts, and protest wanting the web to be scrubbed clean of "morally reprehensible" material all because someone popped a boner and they didn't like it. I just can't with these people. They're free to use tags, filters, and extensions to get rid of it but do they need to go anal with it?
No.10586
>>10585They want you to defend these games as ammo for their cause so that any normie can disregard your opinions then move on. They'll only start to care when censorship crashes into their lives making worse for them and anyone affected.
I can respect anyone wanting to keep kids safe, but why not put those eggs in that basket instead of sinking every ship for "morally wrong" (Read: anything horny and gay) goods?
No.10587
>>10585I don't get radfems. If you say something about payment processors censorship they act like you are a gooner who just cares about degenerate games. Maybe it's not a good precedent to put forth?? Radical feminism isn't exactly an uncontroversal political ideology. You don't think a conversative government or payment processor would censor your ideology or what you can buy? Look at the UK and what a mess it is where women get arrested over mean words on Facebook. Why do we want that? The No Mercy game is gross but I really don't care. Nobody outside of coomers would play that game if there wasn't any controversy. Sometimes I feel like I'm going crazy
No.10589
>>10588I agree with some of it but not all. If women weren't visual creatures, things like fashion, beauty, and aesthetics wouldn't matter as much. A man is content with boobs and dick, nothing more. Anything else and the man has to work harder for his coom which you don't want if the sole reason your here is to jerk it off. Women like substance, they want more out of the thing they're consuming via a story, great fashion sense, and interesting dynamics. That doesn't mean women can't be upfront about their desires or get turned on easily, I'm one of them, but compared to men, we don't need so little to get our socks off over anything. Because of that, men's complaints about yaoi and the female gaze always baffled me. Wouldn't you be happy that women, despite everything, see you as human?
No.10591
>>10585Has anyone asked how gay men feel about rape and incest in video games?
I wouldn't want women to speak on my behalf.
No.10594
>>10588>Or teenage boys lusting after their female classmates and discovering porn is just a part of growing up. But women making content around men is sick and degrading.My experience was being aware that I was lusting after 2D male content but being entirely oblivious to lusting after a female classmate and friend because I considered it something boys did.
No.10597
>>10596I'm very worried about the future of ENVNs, itch was THE place people hosted them, part of me is crossing my fingers that we'll get a competitive platform specifically fir games now deemed unacceptable on steam and itch.
As for the rest… nonna now is the time to stop using Chrome! Plenty of offshoots exist with the Chromium engine that you can load extensions like Ublock onto manually. Right now I know both Brave and Ungoogled Chromium are working ad-free and fine. Thst being said if they ever do successfully kill advlocking on yourube I think I'll just stop using it altogether, theres better background noise to put on and I think it's actively making me dumber.
No.10598
>>10597I have already downloaded Firefox on my laptop when I saw some people commenting on the ublock addon page that they're moving there after everything. The Better Twitter addon was also deactivated by force and I don't think it's possible to download it again on Chrome but it's possible on Firefox. I just need something equivalent to Rikaikun and I'm good to go, unless I can get something similar with Brave and Ungoogled Chromium but I'll look that up. As for twitter, maybe I should start using a VPN until it's all sorted out but I'm worried it will have repercussions on my account as a whole, especially because I also use the app on my phone. I don't want to give up twitter because most artists I like use it on a regular basis and I'm sure bluesky has the exact same restrictions on top of these same artists forgetting bluesky exists like 4 months ago.
>Thst being said if they ever do successfully kill advlocking on yourube I think I'll just stop using it altogether, theres better background noise to put on and I think it's actively making me dumber.I mostly use it to listen to music so all the recent changes piss me off like you wouldn't believe. I have to do a right click and then choose to loop back videos from the beginning to avoid being jumpscared by another unrelated song as soon as the video stops. I don't want to create a youtube account or use the one forced by Google on my android phone so I'll have to learn to stop relying on it eventually as well.
No.10600
>>10599RIP Internet. We had a good run (for a loose definition of "good")
There might be some promise in zero-knowledge forms of age verification… but the internet is so infested with bots and AI that it'll never be like the Web 1.0 days.
As an adult, I don't even want to interact with minors. What do they have to say worth listening to? What do I have to say to them? I blame the pedo scrotes who couldn't keep their hands out of the proverbial cookie jar. They're the reason we can't have nice things.
Pic unrelated, just need something cute to cheer me up.
No.10601
>>10600Man I don't even want to interact with anybody under 30 these days. A kid is more likely to get groomed by a local creep anyway.
No.10603
>>10596Sometimes I wonder what would happen if we had to return to more analog forms of communication and media, like in the 20th century where you had to physically go to a convention to buy a Spock/Kirk zine.
Fujo communities live in conversations that would be harder to have if we had to send letters or faxes. It would be expensive to import stuff from Japan or travel there in person. What if you’re too shy to go to a convention?
Being a fujo basically requires being online, there’s not really a way around it. At least we still have places like this website and aarinfantasy.
No.10604
>>10603>Fujo communities live in conversations that would be harder to have if we had to send letters or faxes. It would be expensive to import stuff from Japan or travel there in person. What if you’re too shy to go to a convention?I already buy physical copies of BL manga, and I go to cons whenever I can if they're not too shitty, which they often are nowadays because of normies acting like parasites and tables for non professional artists costing way too much and it's getting expensive to visit these cons in general. I even went to cons in Japan twice now because going to the biggest con in my country around the same dates would have costed me an arm and a leg so why not spend a bit more money and go to Japan directly, meet artists directly and visit a few Mandarake stores at the same time? And Comic City events last just one day and are nothing but an artist alley and that's all I care about to begin with. It sucks so much so because it's expensive but the planning around it is also a pain in the ass as well, my days off depends on my job and how busy I am and I'm always busy when I want to travel the most because whether I'm busy depends on when schools are open or closed. Since I couldn't go to that big con in my country I also consider buying prints online but my post office sucks ass for reason I don't even want to detail so I'm not even sure I could get my parcels and bigger envelops at home. Buying online from the US is probably also a pain in the ass because of tariffs now and buying doujinshi or prints from Japanese artists will depends on if Mastercard or Visa cards are still accepted by these platforms. Now I won't be able to travel anywhere for more than a week for some time, not because of money but because I have to take care of sick family members so there's no way I can go back to Japan next year. Twitter is the best way for me to know what's up in terms of hobbies so if I can't even use that properly I'll be disappointed.
By the way, twitter is still checking if I'm old enough to see nsfw art or not, somehow. I'll see how long it takes but it all seem automated and it's happening to plenty of other users so I have no clue how long it can take.
No.10605
>>10601This whole situation reminds me of a video I once saw about how there's pretty much no more kids' spaces online so they're forced to mingle with adults. There's all those virtual worlds that slowly died off and I also remember from my childhood how I'd go on the official disney and cartoon network websites to play official flash games but now they just exist for advertisement.
No.10607
>>10603People always talk about how much they wish it was X past decade I always think about how much I value the internet and ease of accessing media. Sure movies may have been better in the 80s, but living in present day means I can enjoy more of them easily. Even though the enshittification of the internet is always happening, means of sharing already exist online and it's impossible to get rid of. Mangafox may be dead but 20 more manga sites take it's place like a hydra, same for all forms of entertainment.
>>10604I could never go to cons since I've got too much social anxiety but buying con stuff online is a massive pain in the neck. Sites like Mandrake sell doujins for reasonable prices but shipping costs more than the product itself ugh.
Also I'm American, but European nonnas can you just use a VPN to bypass region blocked content? I'm reminded of the temperance movement right now and I'm wondering if there will be enough outrage the whole thing get's repealed, but I don't know British law.
No.10608
>>10607>European nonnas can you just use a VPN to bypass region blocked content?I guess? I admit I'm a lazy person but I'll have to consider it if we reach the point where I have to give twitter my sensitive information to prove I'm an adult because I don't trust Elon with that shit.
No.10609
>>10607>Also I'm American, but European nonnas can you just use a VPN to bypass region blocked content?It seems it's simply possible to go in the settings and change the country, but I haven't tried it yet because I'm worried it could cause me to lose my account somehow, like if twitter detects where I am and assume suspicious activities. Since apps don't really care about privacy settings anymore. I'm waiting a few days to see how long it takes to determine my age by their shitty AI, I already put my birth date in the settings and don't remember ever changing it but I don't know if this criteria will be taken into account. Basically it's wait and see for me. If nothing works I'll try using a VPN.
>but I don't know British lawIt's not just British law. The UK left the European union a few years ago but still tries to have similar laws concerning the internet and who has access to what data, usually regarding things like GDRP. I'm unable to see some websites and some tweets because of an EU law that's very similar to what's in the UK it seems. I'm not against preventing kids and teenagers from accessing NSFW websites and posts but I hate when these new rules are so badly implemented, and I hate how giving evidence of your age can be dangerous becausd of hackers stealing personal data, selling them, stealing people's identity or trying to scam everyone. Someone already tried to scam me after information about a hotel reservation was leaked recently, the scammers tried to use information to make their demands seem believable and utterly failed but with generative AI getting better and better and sensitive data being leaked every five seconds I'm very wary of this sort of things. It's somehow worse than tumblr's porn ban that let actual porn be posted in 2018 but normal pictures with a little too much beige or light orange was interpreted as porn by shitty bots and flagged as such.
>I could never go to cons since I've got too much social anxietyThat sucks. Personally making weeb friends in uni and going to my first cons with them helped me a lot. I don't think I had social anxiety but I was very sheltered and terrified of going outside except for school at the time and I was struggling at school with public speaking. The stress made me physically ill at times but that was a long time ago and all because of external circumstances. Going to cons and other events with friends helped a lot. However I know American cons are crazy expensive so I get it if you don't want to force yourself and see if you can still somewhat enjoy this type of events despite your anxiety.
No.10611
>>10607>Also I'm American, but European nonnas can you just use a VPN to bypass region blocked content?Yes, I don't have a VPN at the moment cuz I need to renew my subscription but I could use it without issue in sites like Twitter and others which are blocked in my country. Time will tell if we get absolutely tyrannical laws that doesn't even let you use a VPN tho, seeing as in China those are allowed it would be bleak.
>I'm reminded of the temperance movement right now and I'm wondering if there will be enough outrage the whole thing get's repealed, but I don't know British law.Not a Brit so I dunno how it'll be, but I saw that a petition for the parliament got over 100 000 signatures in less than 24 hours so I guess not a lot of people liked it. I think this is much more legit than change.org so here's the link to the petition
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903Also for American nonas, it seems like stuff are also getting banned in your country as well, only in red states but goddamn, everything is getting censored at the same time.
No.10613
On the topic of doujins, what should I do in the case I purchased one but didn't enjoy the contents of whats in it?
I bought it off mandarake and it was a gamble based off the cover art but unfortunately the dynamic isn't what I was looking for plus I'm no longer into the series the DJ is based off. Its R18 so I don't think I'll be able to bring it to a con swap meet, would my only other option be ebay/selling it online? This is a far fetched option but would I be able to hand it in to a Mandarake retailer for donation even if I'm not a JP citizen? I'd really hate for someone's art to go to waste even if it's not my cup of tea, the last thing I'd want to do is throw it away.
No.10614
>>10613>This is a far fetched option but would I be able to hand it in to a Mandarake retailer for donation even if I'm not a JP citizen?You can irl but idk about online. They will give you a tiny little bit of money though but it's better than nothing and someone else could buy it later and enjoy the doujinshi more than you did. If it's irl in Japan you need to fill a form and show your passport, they'll take time deciding how much they'll pay you for everything so you can browse the store in the meantime. You can ask the store to throw away what they don't want to buy as well. I sold doujinshi I didn't like and BL manga in Japanese I didn't need anymore after they were officially translated and published where I live.
No.10615
>>10600I just don't even know what to say either because my experiences as a child when I was around 5 getting molested had nothing to do with the internet (it was barely a thing back then), and much less with gay media.
No.10616
I just changed my country to the US in the settings on twitter and now I can see some nsfw tweets but not all of them, I still get that stupid message instead. Whatever man.
No.10617
I just made a typo that implied I liked pedo, zoo, and incest porn when I meant there's two different kinds of porn…FUUUUCK. I'm gonna get permabanned for that post I can feel it.
No.10619
>>10618I heard Discord is targeted by the new UK and EU laws right now but I haven't used it in years, I have no idea how these new rules are implemented. They're already badly implemented on twitter so I doubt discord is any better to be honest.
No.10620
>>10619Samefag and yeah it does but as far as I know, it's Discord asking for your ID or photo to verify you're an adult to see NSFW channels. That doesn't work because you can just get a picture of anyone on Google and say it's you, and also that doesn't stop predators from DMing kids cuz they usually hang around SFW servers.
No.10623
>>10588>that men are less ground in reality and get off to huge breasts and dickExactly, men's gay content is all just roided guys with huge penises that can be seen throu while clothed.
I've never see women draw men with their cocks visible from under the pants.
If anything women HUMANIZE characters too much, the humanization of fictional characters to the point of doing things like non-sharing yume or wanting rights for female characters over real women etc
It's the opposite problem.
No.10624
>>10622
To be fair male and female BL creators are equally capable of gooning out and drawing sexualised men. Examples are honeyqp and all the other female BL creators on DLsite, and also most of the KR webtoon artists. IIRC you have that visible cock under pants in chapter 1 of Jinx.
No.10627
>>10624NTA and OT but HoneyQP is a woman?
All the sex toys reviews(ones that are obviously intended for men) and futanari content made me believe the opposite but since I also saw djs of Free!, UtaPri and other franchises more popular with women I got confused.
No.10628
>>10624HoneyQP is a woman???
I thought their doujins were also a bit of a review/ad, there's photos of the wacko sex toys.
No.10629
>>10625Sorry i think i misread your post. If you meant that male and female creators depict sexualised male bodies differently (different emphasis and expression of erotic body features) then yes i agree with that. I assumed you were saying that women don't care visual erotics.
>>10627>>10628Ok now I'm doubting myself. I know she's (???) listed as female on mangaupdates and always publishing djs of very typical yaoi ships, the kind that you can just tell gay men don't dabble in so i've automatically accepted her being female. I've dismissed the ads as side hustle. But if they're indeed a man i might need to re-evaluate my assessment of their oeuvre…
No.10630
>>10629Bakaupdates probably isn't wrong, and I agree the ships/series they're drawing are very fujo.
I've been blindsided before by artists I assumed were men because they drew muscles or body hair only to see them posting selfies on their twitter clearly female. I still think there is a different "gaze" though, like even with more bara-adjacent art by women you don't see stuff like the "bear" body type all that often.
No.10631
>>10629I'm just surprised, I have less info than you. It's not impossible, I can believe it, but it is also pretty funny.
No.10633
>>10629I checked her/his website and twitter and I'm even more confused, if that's even possible kek.
Tbh, the franchise BL djs read as female for the most part. It's the original content(both BL and hentai) the one that makes me wonder. That and the onahole/vibrators ads lol.
Maybe she just likes drawing and selling all these comics/merch, who knows.
No.10634
>>10623Yeah I also see it in the opposite side of the art bodytype spectrum. I like twink/femboy/trap type of art because the guys are so cute but yesterday in one of the art discords I frequent someone posted a pink-haired catboy with a dick the size of his own torso and that just ruined the whole catboy.
No.10637
>>10630>Bara-adjacentNgl, I love bara-adjacent art as drawn by women. But yea, compared to real bara it ain't nearly as gross imo.
No.10638
>>10620It has to be a moving image that can follow the commands to open and close the mouth. Some video game footage works according to viral articles. What got me though is that
one NSFW channel got blocked for me, but all the others in other servers were fine, even the ones with age restriction applied.
Some users are reporting being banned completely from discord because the face scan thought they were under 13. Anyone wanna bet they're Asian women and it has issues with small, round face shapes?
No.10641
>>10639My farmer friend I met irl (we were both laughing at palestine x israel yaoi fanart because the place we tried to move our lolita meetup to had a bunch of protesters) has gone here a couple of times but she's not a regular user.
No.10642
>>10639Last year I went to Y/CON and met 2 nonas from here, it was a blast. I have one of them on Twitter and Discord but we haven't talked in a while. I wanna go this year so I'll see if we can see each other again.
No.10643
>>10639I suspect one of my mutuals may be an anon and she mentioned cons I used to visit so it could be possible. I also wouldn't be surprised if a former coworker of mine also knows these parts of the internet so I already know her irl. We have a manga store in my city I often go to with an extensive BL collection so I also assume most women who buy their books here are terminally online already, it's not impossible some of them use imageboards already.
No.10645
One of the weirdest things that I've witnessed while following artist accounts is that I remember an artist somewhere around 2018 that was drawing my OTP somewhat sporadically, pretty cute art, very typical fujo account really. Then somewhere in 2020, their account literally became nothing but a bot reposting japanese antivaxx news and japanese antivaxx propaganda, like having at least 2,000 RTs a day. They went from a very normal acc to almost a bot (And they weren't they'd still sometimes talk fujo stuff in the middle of antivaxx RTs) it was bizarre.
Another was an artist I very much liked and thought was normal ending up drawing big fat fucking scat out of nowhere (It's the artist that drew that infamous twst scat doujin) because you never expect a fujo to draw scat at all, let alone like it at all. Upon reading some of their tweets they'd say a lot that they wish they could be like men who draw scat porn and loli.
Anyway, sometimes I really think back on that. Nip fujos sometimes are weird
No.10647
>>10646kinda depressing we are regressing when it comes to the internet and freedom of speech. it should have never been normal to have kids online outside of kids websites with prewritten chat options.
No.10648
>>10645I saw that as well
No.10656
>>10651I'm obsessed with that Link fanart, holy shit he is so cute and lewd
No.10660
>>10654I skimmed this, it's literally about an unattractive otaku whose crush dates a jock, so he rapes the jock, blackmails him and then starts raping him some more, the big difference between that and a yaoi story is that the ugly protagonist and the author clearly despises men who are stronger and more attractive than him and this is their fantasy of revenge
>>10650reminded me of this
No.10661
>>10653You know it's a fujo franchise when Ebimo getting hired.
No.10662
>>10645>they wish they could be like men who draw scat porn and loli.I can kind of understand this logic. If I could just enjoy porn for porn's sake instead of having shipping autism I could eat like a king, you know?
>>10650I've seen this Freiza's blown out asshole before but I had no idea it was a whole comic. The fact that he's got enough interest to have a Patreon is craaaaaaazy.
No.10678
It fills me with joy to see yurifags seething about the lack of f/f fics because no matter how much they complain about it and harass fujos year after year, m/m still dominates.
No.10682
>>10678What's stopping them from making their own shit? So many writing tutorials exist online for them to learn, but nah, let's bully women for not making yurislop for us. I seriously can't fathom barging into fandoms spaces and leaving surprised you have to make shit you like if you wanna see more things you like?
No.10686
>Artist who draws/writes ship/character you like admits to never having consumed the canon
What's your reaction when this happens, or what would be your reaction?
No.10687
>>10686I would think it's weird but I wouldn't really care.
No.10688
>>10686Can't say I'm completely cool with it but I'd be more disappointed if there wasn't nice art.
No.10689
>>10686Depends? I feel like if it's a fanfic I'd notice the characterisation being off or just extremely bland and I would be annoyed with that beforehand. Then again, I very recently had a moment where a writer I generally enjoyed characterised a male character I like as a jealous otome chad and it took me completely off guard cause she did in fact play the game.
No.10690
>>10689 I don't know what it says about me that there have been at least 2 times where I really liked the characterization of someone who hadn't consumed the canon and felt it was close to mine. I wonder if it's because longtime fans might have gotten bogged down in fanon hell but secondaries would be looking at the wiki a lot.
But I ended up pettily blocking one of those people because they turned out to ship my NOTP and reached 99% likelihood of being an anti. I happened to find out about the not having consumed canon thing at the same time so it was just the cherry on top.
>jealous otome chadMy absolute least favorite type of OOC, especially for hyper-autist faves who I can never picture acting like some player fuckboy.