No.1310
>>1309You're blind nona, there's no way you could tell it's a guy at first glance.
No.1312
>>1310NTA but agreed, i legitimately was confused at first as to why
>>1305 was posted cuz i thought it was a tomboy or somethin
No.1314
>>1308Sorry for blog but to illustrate how much I hate this, I remember when a cumbrained scrote tried to hit on me by appealing to my fujo side and went on about his love of traps thinking I would be interested in his dickgirl fetish because "they're men after all, right? You like that stuff right?". Leave the "wig" and "stuffed bra" out and we'll talk you retard.
No.1316
>>1310yeah but thats the point of a trap
If you look closer you see ways he uses hide his form, cut sleeves because of his wide sholders, long hair that covers the side of his jaw, long sleeves that hide his big hands, giant (fake) tits to hide his chest, a skirt that makes his hips look wider. Plus look at the size of his feet
A trap, at first glance, should pass for a woman, thats the entire point
No.1317
>>1316> draw a girl. add a dick> i-it's clearly a boy, you see he's using an angle to look feminineplease go to hell you fucking troll
Don't use that stupid logic trying to explain why a drawing looks girly when it's a "boy"
When is just this shit
>>912 No.1318
>>1312I figured it was one of those gender bender pics. Which, off topic, are such wastes of good boys.
No.1319
>>1316>A trap, at first glance, should pass for a woman, thats the entire pointCool, except us non-coombrains don't want to look at women in our yaoi, even if they have a schrodinger's cock. We've been over this many times.
No.1320
>>1317>>1319>uuuuh, actually this tall character with wide shoulders, narrow hips and huge hands and feet is clearly a feminine girl because um…. long hair.The only reason you get upset over stuff like this is that you have a very primitive understanding of the differences between men and women
No.1322
>>1321The character I posted is far more representative of the body of the average BL character than what you posted.
Go to /bl/ and compare the bodies of the boys posted there to the body you posted
No.1333
>>1324Yes we're aware these are lines on a page. But nothing about these lines look remotely male. Even shota looks more masculine than a majority of the pics in this thread
>>1332>sure there's zero male indicators to these characters other than their dicks, but they call themselves men and so does the author so that automatically makes them men by default!https://files.catbox.moe/meox8c.jpghttps://mega.nz/folder/b89z0YaZ#VQvTijHD2MGvE0zlE8LAWQ No.1334
>>1332Cope and seethe. Trapfags, just like any other male-aligned fetishists, are so fragile when they realize there's one place online where their "totally ackshually male can't you see the hands" dickgirl waifus they chimp out for literally months repeating the same retarded moidbrained gotchas like "y-you femoids are just jealous of how hot they are!!", "t-they're totally the same thing as twinks!" and "s-so you think trannies are female too huh??" like manmade cartoons ever equated to real life. You can literally fuck off to any board on 4chan to circlejerk about traps but no, you need submission everywhere.
No.1340
>>1334>y-you femoids are just jealous of how hot they are!god i swear i wouldn't detest trapfags as much if they didn't infuse that misogynistic garbage into their speech
No.1342
>>1334>>1333Why are you so pro-trans? Why do you call men "women"? Why do you call people with penises "female"? Do you have trans friends and that's why you're a trans ally?
(infighting ) No.1361
>>1340They're honestly no different than the trannies they insist they're not
No.1405
>>1027I'll hazard a guess you've heard the "a woman made it, so that makes it okay" line one too many times, especially by women who should know better
No.1434
I can like feminine guys a lot if they are written well and if they are placed into series that is otherwise filled with masculine men, making them an exception and mysterious. I hate it when everybody in a series is a twink though and there is a high chance I won't even give it a chance.
I cannot relate to them either or rarely. I don't have a very feminine personality so I cannot relate to cheerful, social, emotional or happy characters which is what most feminine guys are written as.
>>976Annoys me too. Honestly most people that like the same series I like are men and most women I met in real life had a problem with me they and they have too many health issues and are picky with food and everything so if anything it's women I rather keep a distance from. Most of the annoying men I see are American insecure rightoids on the net that lose their shit if a series dares to pander women for once.
Ironically it's the same people that get angry if a woman gets angry about the sexualization of a female character. But the moment there is some harmless gay pandering or a guy acting sexual it's the end of civilization.
No.1471
>Traps aren't trans, they don't want to be wom–
No.1531
The only trap that I really ever liked was Bridget, but that's because he's a cute shota and I like cute things, especially cute boys. The idea of a boy who looks like a girl trying to prove how manly he is was just so adorable to me back then.
But yeah, traps are made to appeal to closet gay men who aren't into BL or bara. It was never mixed with BL or fujoshis in the past, but now it is. Anime culture online is really terrible isn't it?
No.1546
>>1545I think people defend it because, and hear me out on this one, they actually like it. For me at least, traps and other forms of feminine men are a nice way to enjoy feminine looking characters without having to actually look at a girl. I like looking at girly and cute things, but I don't like girls. I like boys and want to see only boys. Two things I like, so I'm going to put them together. Boom, we have a girly boy! He is still a boy, just very pretty! If they have a chest as flat as a board and some sort of visible bulge and call themselves a guy, then they're male to me. I don't get why people overcomplicate it by saying they're trans, especially by people that supposedly hate trannies so why would they force the trans label on a character that isn't trans? Maybe they've been indoctrinated so much by the tranny pill that they think "oh they're in feminine clothing so they MUST be a girl no matter what" or some other line of thinking that I just don't understand.
As for that picture, I can still tell that's a male because of the head shape, nose length, and eyes. It's subtle things but I've consumed plenty of trap and crossdressing media to notice small details. Most other weebs can tell, I think it's just normies that have trouble telling the difference. To each their own, people can hate traps if they want, but I don't understand this closed-minded line of thinking that women simply just cannot under any circumstances enjoy traps, it only has to be men. Is it that strange for women to like pretty things?
No.1687
>>1546>As for that picture, I can still tell that's a male because of the head shape, nose length, and eyes.Then you must need glasses
>>1565Cringe
No.1735
>>1687You're cringe you sperg.
No.1736
>>1686That was one of the endings, and context matters, so I wouldn't say that necessarily counts, but in the end I think the producer did finally cave-in to western demand, unfortunately. But he's still a normal crossdressing boy in all of our hearts.
No.1739
>>1735"yassifying" twinks into submissive and breedable moeblobs with dicks is cringe
>>1736>But he's still a normal crossdressing boy in all of our hearts.Headcanons are all you'll ever have
No.11589
>>904man its wild how much I USED to love traps, crossdressing anime boys when I was growing up. Moid weebs truly do ruin everything they touch.
No.12486
Women into trapshit are no different than self-insert authors that make poorly disguised moid pandering hetslop where their "self-insert" has massive boobs and the man is never sexualized unlike her.
No.12487
>>11589Same here. Growing up on 4chin really did irreversible damage to my developing brain kek. I don't find them appealing in the least anymore merely because of that association, which is a shame because a lot of these characters are really cute.
No.12489
>>12486Shit taste, a man falling for someone he thought was a girl only for it to be a guy is a great trope. Gay panic is underrated and it's a shame more trap works don't explore it.
No.12490
>>12486if trap means
>flat-chested anime girl with huge hips plus bulge slapped onthen traps suck. if trap means
>cute feminine male who crossdresses with cute clothing and still ultimately looks and feels male for womenthen sure. I see trap used interchangeably with femboy or twink or even trans now which all are supposed to mean different things.
No.12492
>>12489Gay panic is just as bad. It's another flavor of the predictable "that cute 'girl' actually has a penis!"
No.12493
>>12492Nta but the only time I would like tropes like this is if the feminine (but still male looking) character is convinced he's tricking the other man, and the man pretends to not pick up on it because he's in denial of being gay.
No.12494
>>12492I meant literally a character panicking and denying he's gay not the self-defense talking point. I like internalized homophobia, guilt, one-sided pining, and denial of feelings. Traps have like a built in segue to that when the author actually treats them like a man. I personally visually prefer when you can still tell the character is a boy like Ryo from IdolM@s but the basic idea is what's appealing to me so as long as there is another guy to bounce them off of I'm game.
>>12491 I tried so hard to get into this nonna but I think the presentation filtered me a bit, did the prologue and put it on indefinite haitus. Didn't even realize there was a trap when I started it so that caught me off guard haha.
No.12511
>>12494Gay panic is just "HAH! You were beating your meat to a boy (that looks, dresses, acts and sounds) all along" to me and it's all so tiresome.
No.12512
>>11589>>12487It's a good thing you grew out of that mentality. Some fujos, especially upthread, still really don't know better that they're pandering to moid straggots by liking traps, or they know and don't care. I especially don't understand the defense of "draw a girl call it a boy" traps, like… just say you want to flick the bean to futa.
No.12513
>>12512Why are you letting other people dictate what you like?
No.12514
>>12512>still really don't know better that they're pandering to moid straggotsI like what I like. If what I like panders to moid straggots, then so be it. I do not have to justify any of my fictional or sexual tastes.
No.12518
Well fuck, I guess I can't like shotas anymore because I'd be pandering to moids who enjoy shotas.
No.12519
>the internalized misogyny on full display
No.12520
>>12519I agree, fuck people who decide that they have to hit a certain "purity level" and only enjoy certain characters they feel are fujo or whatever the fuck. People shouldn't have to pretend to like something or hide the fact that they enjoy something.
Unrelated to this thread but I would share so much more art here if I wasn't afraid of getting ostracized for my taste in less conventually attractive men. It's a mental hangup I need to get over.
No.12556
>>12518Shotas at least look male
No.12557
>>12514Based. If people like the things that
I like then they simply have good taste. Imagine being so weak allowing your tastes to be manipulated by who you hate.