No.48
>>46>when did you start reading homestuck? Got introduced to Homestuck in 2012 thanks to bl fanart on Tumblr (JohnKat especially). I actually started reading it years later when the fandom got a little less unhinged, I'm kinda sad I missed out on most of the fun stuff as it was happening, though.
>favorite character?>favorite pairing? Dirk and Jake.
>favorite act?Intermission FTW. And Act 5 too, obviously.
No.74
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>when did you start reading homestuck?
April 13th, 2013.
>favorite characters?
Jane and Vriska
>favorite pairing?
Gamzee x Tavros
>favorite act?
Act 6 Act 5 Act 1
Here are some shipping charts for the brave.
homestuck.com/story/4715
No.76
>>62>erikarbased taste, nona. i was an erisol shipper first and an erikat shipper second. surprising amount of content for characters whose only interactions in canon were annoying each other and murder.
No.86
>>74>homestuck.com/story/4715Kek anon, those pages still crack me up everytime and were probably the reason I became a davekat shipper to begin with.
Btw has anyone been keeping up with the tragedy that is Homestuck 2? These two are literally the only thing worth reading for and they are in the sidelines for the most part.
No.87
>>86>homestuck 2isn't it on semi-permanent hiatus because people complained about it too much? i never really kept up with it outside of eating popcorn at the drama.
i dunno. could be that it's gotten older, could be that the writing direction no longer resonates with me, could just be that i've always been a big dirk fan. but when i read the epilogues, there was just none of the magic that made homestuck so special to me. i'll probably never re-read homestuck because of that, too. i want to keep that memory intact, at least.
No.90
>>87>could be that the writing direction no longer resonates with meyeah, that's partially because hussie isn't involved in writing hs2. i don't believe he wrote the epilogues either.
what i hate about them personally though (totally unrelated to your post so feel free to NOT read this) is how they're (epilogues + hs2) written by the *absolute* *dregs* of the hs fandom. not the cringe (but harmless) *bucket joke giggle-snort all my ships* type dreg either but the *woke, sjw, "trans every character xD", break lore to fit my irl moralities, wangst* parts of the fandom. like, the people who thought the bro/dave strife flash was an example of actual child abuse and not just a silly thing hussie tossed in. those people. fuck them
No.93
I've never gotten into the homestuck fandom because the fanart promised me something different than the original material of it. Am I missing out on the lore?
No.94
>>93i wouldn't say you're missing out, because it's very much a product of its time and i'm not sure how well the humor or the writing style really hit now. it's very much a piece of internet history, though, and there's so much content that spawned from it - the amount of fanfiction that tried to emulate its style, how franchises like OFF, danganronpa, and undertale gained their popularity in part from homestuck fandom overflow, the memes, the references…
i think if you were a part of the fandom at its heyday, there was something genuinely magical about it all. early homestuck had this incredible tongue-in-cheek, heavily meta-referential writing style that had a ridiculous amount of personality. there's still nothing out there i've seen that has that same sense of whimsy, that inspires so many people to create their own content within the universe. it's just that all of that is gone now.
i… have a lot of feelings about homestuck.
No.228
Lots of favorite things here but for me I want to know what people hate, most hated ships and most hated characters. Please, enlighten me.
No.278
>>228Fuck Gamzee and Eridan's dancestor, and I don't like Roxy and Caliope together.
At some point I found a chan with a homestuck board but I forgot what it was.
No.317
>when did you start reading homestuck? 2010
>favorite character?can't pick one
>favorite pairing? can't pick one
>favorite act?4
>>94>>93I definitely think it's worth reading. A lot of the banter still hits and the music (AND fan music) is good. If you end up coming out of it with a character or ship you like, you get a decade-long backlog of fanart/fic to browse. Homestuck was indeed very special, it sparked so much creativity in so many people, on a level I've never seen any other modern work do.
>>228I think the worst part of being into Homestuck was looking for stuff that had all the ships you liked (and more importantly, didn't include a ship you hated or in the wrong quadrant). I think the only ship I HATED-hated was romantic John/Vriska, had a huge self-inserting "my dick will heal her" vibe to it. Either that or John was depicted like a manic-pixie dream girl(male).
No.1117
>>1114It is pretty wild that the creator of promstuck when on to write the Locked Tomb series and Gideon the Ninth. Not too long ago a book club in my are discussed them, it was pretty surreal to be apart of that kek. But I'm happy for her success.
No.1118
>>1117It's pretty impressive how many Homestuck fanfiction writers went on to become professional writers. Was wondering why coldhope orphaned all her Homestuck stories recently, only to dig around and discover that not only is she a published author now, she's also married to the author of Texicalaan, who was also a Homestuck BNF.
No.1120
>>1114What happened? Last I heard she was working in animation.
No.1121
>>1120She was just my first brush with "getting too popular in fandom gets you a gaggle of haters who will dissect your life, follow you through fandoms, and drum up a dogpile when you draw something problematic". I think she lost a job for drawing underage Spider-Man yaoi and guro. I think she still works in animation, but I would hate to live my life knowing "what if somebody who was butthurt about how popular my cringe homestuck AU fanart got is still watching my social media waiting for me to post something cancelable".
I know Voltron was when this shit really popped off, but how some Homestuck artists/writers got treated was the canary in the coalmine.
No.1122
>>1121>underage Spider-Man yaoiWas it Peter or Miles?
No.1123
>>1122Peter (specifically with Deadpool).
No.1263
They really will turn John into a tranny huh. To any johnfags still out there, I'm so sorry.
No.1278
>>1264Wait HS2 is still going? I thought it died long ago lol.
Also poor John…. JohnDave and JohnKat were my top ships when i was a HS fan so I really hate that they are transing him.
No.1369
>>1368Not a fan persay, I've tried many times over the years to get into it but have never actually made it to the trolls (just not for me I've begrudgingly decided), but I did watch the pilot. Kind of speedrunning the first act isn't it? I feel like Homestuck is already in it's ideal format so adapting it to animation loses the faux adventure game appeal it had going for it and some stuff like the sylladex look weird animated. My assumption is they're trying to rush to act five as quickly as possible given they've already shown all the primary characters, but that also makes sense given the medium shift and making the pesterchums animated conversations was smart.
Regardless of outcome I'm sure this will bring in a lot of new fans given the webcomic can't even be read in it's original format anymore.
No.1370
>>1369>Regardless of outcome I'm sure this will bring in a lot of new fans given the webcomic can't even be read in it's original format anymore.Yeah I was thinking the same. As a tumblr girl in the early 2010s I experienced homestuck as intended complete with trying to entertain myself with askblogs and theorycrafting while we were all waiting for updates but anyone wanting to get into it in the current year just can't have the same experience. This is not the same but if anyone's interested by this they may feel like digging deeper. Though that being said I guess getting your hands on a fan archive is a bigger hurdle now.
No.1371
>>1369>Kind of speedrunning the first act isn't it?It totally is. I don't know how anyone who hasn't read the comic could even follow what's happening kek. I get it because the first arcs were slow, and I am one of those people who had a very hard time getting into the first few acts (it took me multiple tries, and I didn't start liking it until I got to Act 5). There are later parts you can 100% cut and lose nothing of value (Openbound is the best example), but I feel like the earlier acts are a little harder to speedrun. They also mischaracterized some of the characters, but that's unfortunately what I expected. I was also surprised by the lack of humor. I don't think I laughed once while watching, but I guess they were trying to cram in as much story as possible.
>I feel like Homestuck is already in it's ideal format so adapting it to animation loses the faux adventure game appeal it had going for it and some stuff like the sylladex look weird animated.Agreed. I think part of why Homestuck works is because of the format. The writing and pacing are horrible at points, but it's so unique that I was intrigued enough to keep going. I don't know if there's even a way to adapt it to animation without losing that charm. I also don't know how they'll explain some of the more complicated parts later on, as it's extremely text-heavy for a reason. I'm guessing one of my favorite animations/jokes from the webcomic cannot be adapted, as I don't see how they could (it relies on knowledge of a Nic Cage movie. You could watch the most important scene from the movie in the comic for context, but obviously, they can't have copyrighted material in this format). Similarly, I have NO idea how the fuck they're planning to handle the
Insane Clown Posse stuff, especially given how integral it was to
Gamzee killing like half the trolls, as well as their role later in the comic… I don't know how you get that effect without being familiar with them. If they make an original song to replace
Miracles, it won't be nearly as funny.
>making the pesterchums animated conversations was smartI did like this, and I'm extremely curious as to how they'll adapt the trolls' typing quirks. I also thought the narration was adapted well.
>Regardless of outcome I'm sure this will bring in a lot of new fans given the webcomic can't even be read in it's original format anymore.It'll be interesting to see what happens with the new fandom, and if the series has any staying power. I'm skeptical as to how it'll turn out, as this seems like a very difficult property to adapt to animation. Given what's happened with the Unofficial Homestuck Collection, it's obvious Hussie's planning to rerelease the comic to capitalize on the surge in popularity, but it will be an inferior or altered product. The comic uses a TON of copyrighted material, so if he's planning to monetize the rerelease, he'll have to cut it. He should've just left the series alone.
No.1373
>>1368I hate how Dave is portrayed. It just isn't his character to me.
No.1374
>>1368I didn't really like the modernization of the dialog. Part of the charm of early Homestuck for me was the 4 kids being so close to my experiences as a teen online in the late 00s/early 10s and hearing them talk like it was the 20s was jarring.
I'm not quite sure who this endeavor was "for", you know? New fans won't stick with this bare bones format, old fans already eat pretty good with fanworks, casual fans have better options elsewhere. Maybe they plan on merch selling?
>>1373Dave in particular was terrible but I also didn't like how often John was swearing. I saw somebody call it the "Hazbin-ification" of Homestuck and I agree.
No.1375
>>1374Wait, they added 20s internet slang? Why? Everyone on twitter still talks like original Dave, what's even the point?
No.1376
>>1374>who this endeavor was "for"Zoomer fans of Deltarune and Hazbin Hotel seem to be eating it up on twitter. I feel bad for anyone who's still in this fandom since they're soon going to have to deal with 'show only' fans.
On an unrelated note, anyone here keeping up with HS2? I saw some of the art and it looks really good, but I'm not willing to pick it up solely due to the trans!John bullshit even if I can ignore the other horrible writing choices. I really like most of the older designs though (except Rose, she looks stupid).
No.1377
>>1376I kinda checked out of Homestuck after the ending and then I heard people mention some sort of epilogue where Roxy got trooned out cause she didn't want to have children or something like that so I already decided I didn't want to bother with anything after the ending. It just doesn't feel necessary to me.
No.1378
>>1368I didn't know the pilot was going to be this short when i watched it, and I'm pretty sure it contributed to the shitty pacing of this. But yeah it's pretty bad. I don't know what I expected from vivizie of all people, even if she's supposedly not involved in the writing of this, the people she works with are and it's very obvious they can't write a normal sentence without some swear mixed in. Dave smiles/emotes too much, John swears too much, and I already know they're going to turn Jade into some uwu baby since she's the only one who ""doesn't swear that often""
The trolls being shoved literally in the last 10 second of the video also suck. It's all just pretty shitty. Also the thought that the new HS fans will probably be the same ones who eat Helluva Boss/Hazbin slop like it's some delicacy fills me with dread.
No.1379
>>1368Just watched and I really hate the voices. Everyone is glazing John's voice because of Toby Fox, personally though it annoys me. But it is the best one, the others are worse. Rose is weirdly raspy and high pitched, Dave is way too happy sounding, and Jade literally sounds like Rainbow Dash at some parts. I hate how people are defending it saying 'it's realistic for their age' who cares if it's realistic? It's fucking Homestuck? 70% of the comic is the kids yapping so atleast make their voices sound nice to listen to…
Also the personalities are butchered like I knew they'd be. Why is Dave so cheerful? It's such an absurd choice to make. I mean maybe post canon Dave is a bit like that but not in Act 1… And the choice to use modern slang is awful, the OG jokes in the webcomic were funny as is.
I do like the animation and artstyle but that's it. The phone call format also seems like it will get old fast, they were pretty creative about it in the pilot but the kids talk a LOT, there is only so much ways you can animate that…
No.1396
>Pre-Scratch Ancestors on Beforus got new designs and descriptionsDumping some of them here since no one’s done that yet.
>SauceFirst set:
https://www.tumblr.com/mspa-archive/797252337081139200/offical-beforus-ancestor-designs-p1Second set:
https://www.tumblr.com/mspa-archive/797510049881817088/beforus-ancestors-pt-2
>Karkat - The ImposterBecause he has mutant red blood, he spent his life posing as a lime blood, because that's the caste he would have naturally fit into with his friend group growing up, but no one ever found out, even his friends. The lime bloods, a class that was hunted to extinction on Alternia because of their dangerous pyrokinetic powers, were not similarly hunted on Beforus. Instead they were put to work on public infrastructure, like other helpsmen. Very powerful pyrokinetics got tough jobs like melting huge amounts of ore to make steel, but extremely weak ones like the Imposter got stuck with menial jobs, like burning off trace amounts of excess gas in coal mines so it doesn't build up and explode. But because he didn't have any powers, he couldn't burn off the gas, so such a buildup did happen which led to a massive explosion, setting off the karmic chain of mishaps affecting this group. He was uninjured from the blast, because he left the mine long before the blast, ashamed of his lack of powers. He was arrested for negligence, was discovered to be an impostor, and was jailed for life. No one ever found out about his mutant blood because the government covered it up. He believed he should be a tragic martyr figure for being forced to live a lie, leading to deadly consequences, but his story was forgotten by time. Kankri learned of his ancestor in a vision, and tried to redeem the Vantas legacy by proudly wearing his blood color on his red sweater, and spent his life preaching perfect morality to everyone to bring honor back to his name.
>Sollux - The HelpsmanA key part of Beforan society is emphasis on voluntary service, by using special abilities to assist with public works and infrastructure, like healthcare, energy production and such. Certain members of this force of volunteers are called "helpsmen", so that's his title. He's extremely enthusiastic about putting time in the power plant, using his telekinesis powers to boost the electric grid. He spends hours or sometimes days on end clutching the terminals with a huge smile on his face, thinking about the joy he is bringing to every troll enjoying his electricity. At some point due to a karmic chain of events, there is an accident that affected him quite negatively, but we don't need to talk about that.
No.1397
>>1396
>Tavros - The Treeaboo A member of the Lost Weeaboos, who dwells in the trees. Another term for these trolls is Treeaboo, which he has claimed as his title. A common misconception about the Nitram legacy is they're based on Peter Pan, or the troll equivalent, Pupa Pan. But this is not true. Actually the Treeboo styled his themes and persona after Troll Robin Hood, who similarly dwelt in tree villages. But at some point there was a mixup, when Rufioh had a vision of his ancestor and thought he was LARPing as Pupa Pan, so he ran with the idea, and conflated "Lost Weeaboos" with the "Lost Boys" of the Pan myth. Actually the Lost Weeaboos had nothing to do with that, they're just weeaboos who live in trees.
>Gamzee - The Bland HighbloodOn Beforus, clowns weren't invented yet, so most of the purple bloods were mimes, and delighted the other classes with their mute street performances. They considered it a sacred duty as members of the highest land dwelling class to entertain their lessers and bring joy to their lives. Kurloz resisted the tradition of swearing a vow of silence to honor this solemn duty, but terrible events conspired to finally make him honor it by sewing his mouth shut and becoming a freaky juggalo. The Highblood is an unusual designation because it's the only one that isn't 8 letters, it's 9. But that's because it isn't actually a formal title, more like a nickname that is commonly used. His title is Mummerer, which is just an old fashioned sort of mime. But this raises the question, did the Grand Highblood have such a title? Which of course he did, it was Murderer. But this was rarely used when describing him, because it was considered too… on the nose :o) … Ok but seriously, it was sometimes, but got lost in the sauce due to what is referred to in clowny nomenclature as the "Abbott and Costello Effect" named after two confusing Earth clowns. Their humorous dialogue confuses words and names, like "Who's on first" means either asking who is on first, or stating a guy named Who is on first, so stupid shit like this would happen with purple bloods all the time, and people often thought "Murderer" was a literal descriptor, not a title. Also the Mummerer's name was Marcmarc, after the famous mime Marcel Marceau, which wasn't that confusing so people remembered his name. But the Grand Highblood's full title and name was Murderer Honkhonk, which REALLY tripped the Abbott and Costello effect, because any time a bunch of clowns get together, all they do is honk, so nobody can tell if they're talking about the Highblood. This led to a lot of stupid situations, and he has had literally thousands of people killed over such buffoonery involving his name.
>Equius - E%emplar Danklook As an indigo blood he has to set a good example for his lessers. He's exemplary, a sexy model citizen, but has a secret life in the voids of society. Nobody knows what this means, and nobody wants to.
No.1400
>>1397>>1396I know that it's arguably on-brand for Homestuck but this mostly feels like Hussie simultaneously making fun of the fans and pandering to them.
No.1449
Sincerely doubt anyone here gives a shit about or has any positive feelings toward hs2 but im fond of the horses. (The nymphs too but this is fujochan lol) im briefly checking in on beyond canon for the new characters.
>favorite character?Like.. most of the characters.. but if its who i think about most often then vriska, sollux, and kankri
>>228Cronkri and erisol (plus cronus and eridan for the least favorite characters). Do i get the reasoning? Yes. Do i think the amporas should die alone? Also yes.
No.1543
It seems that the Homestuck website has finally uploaded all the pages and the entirety of the epilogues, so the comic is actually accessible now. You probably won’t have to use mirror sites or download the Unofficial Homestuck Collection any longer.
New Reader:
https://homestuck.com/newreaderArchive:
https://homestuck.com/archive