/ffs/ - Fujo Fandom Sperging

>>9709
ahaha of course nona ♥ i think there are three key aspects to it

one is that my misandry makes me assume men have the emotional depth of a cactus and are very shallow when it comes to romantic relationships, caring only about sex and a woman's look.

so when i see two guys in love in a fictional setting, i get the perception their love for each other is so strong and pure it changes them. for this to work on me, the guys usually have to be straight or have an undefined sexuality. if they're explicitly gay i don't get the same idealized and fuzzy feelings, because then they're not really going against their ugly nature and just following base instincts as usual. their romance doesn’t feel as intense to me in that case.

the second reason is that disliking men makes me feel some sexual sadism towards them. seeing a man crying, vulnerable and mistreated like it often happens in BL turns me on.

the third reason is kinda political, as in i'm tired of seeing women sexualized all the time, i find it depressing and demeaning. having a genre where that can't happen at all because everyone is a man is refreshing to me. despite being bisexual, i avoid pornographic content with women in it partly due to this.

there are other reasons why i like BL, and lots of them are not linked to my misandry in the slightest. but i would be lying if i said it wasnt somewhat relevant. i hope i managed to get my point across at least a little!

>>9697
>>9703
We need a reaction image that just says "if you don't like the flavor of my cake, bake your own."

>>9683
This would be better suited to the aiden thread but for fuck's sake, can't I enjoy any monsterboy / non-human boy at this point without TIFs thinking it's a trans allegory?

>>9714
Its just the current era flavor of "being mutant is an allegory for being gay"

>>9639
I believe the people who say fujos are self inserting and that's why its misogyny are the people who can't consume fiction without self inserting themselves, and so they project that onto all fujos. Their biggest rage at fujos is that fujos aren't producing enough free fanfiction for them to self insert onto and consume. The yumes are mad because they think fujos are taking away their husband and ruining their self insert fantasy. The himejoshis are mad because they think fujos should be writing more yuri where they can self insert instead. Using fiction as free therapy has become the norm in fandoms.

>>9703
Man, I'm so over this unending moralfagging everywhere in fandom. I wish people went back to saying fujos are stinky annoying fangirls instead of these pseudo-intellectual dissertations on the morality of women looking at cartoon buttfucking. The worst part is that even "edgy" spaces are filled with this shit, like other nonas upthread mentioned when talking about KF. It's not even fun to look at anti-fujos seething anymore when so many of their unmedicated rants make me feel like I'm at Sunday school.
People can't just laugh at the cringy autismo fujos going kyaaaa anymore, they have to insert a million buzzword salads about fetishization/misogyny/male-centrism/pickmeism. It's one of the main things that makes the modern internet so exhausting. Unclench ffs.

>>9719
>himejoshis
I'm kinda offended that yurifags get a cutesy term and we get a term that tells us we are rotten or corrupted. As if they didn't have equal or more capacity to be rotten or corrupted themselves. Now that is some bullcrap…

>>9729
Our fujoshi elders took an insulting name and made it their own. Wear the title of rotten girl with pride, nona. Calling yourself a princess is boring anyway.

>>9732
Ironically I'm old and embraced the term, but lately I feel like I want something more gallant sounding! ;_;

>>9729
I talked to a Japanese fujo in a scanlation team once and she told me "nobody even uses himejoshi, they're just yurichu and yuributa." But those seem to be the derogatory terms so I don't know what Japanese yuri fans use for themselves. Chu is still pretty cute.

>>9739
kek we need to popularize the term "yuripig"

>>9729
>>9739
I want to remind annoying twitter "himes" the term himejoshi comes from comic yurihime which has published a bunch of le problematic content like incest anthologies (both siscon and mother/daughter!!) and oneeloli manga to get them to have some humility.

embrace yuributa. (I don't actually dislike yuri, just a particular type of annoying fake twitter yuri fan who spends more time crying about fujos than engaging with yuri works)

>>9656
People get defensive when its brought up, but this, to me, is proof that zoomers are more conservative. This shift online is very noticeable since people in their 20s tend to dominate whatever the zeitgeist is and guess what generation is that age now. Older fandom didn't bring up morals and real life sexuality into hating things nearly as much as people do now. Why else does everyone, from your average chud to someone xitter progressive with the troon flag, all have the exact same views on sexuality in fiction and all talk the exact same way?

>>9774
If there's one good thing about this payment processor shit it's that it has brought attention to how puritanical zoomers have gotten. So many online-enough-to-know-better people acted like they were above the "pro/anti" thing (which is admittedly very cringe) and are now genuinely surprised that this is what happened. They owe the closest fujos to them financial compensation and an apology!!!

>>9775
I want to see hetties seething and suffering. Is there a thread for that? I don't participate in online discourse so I don't know if its happening.

>>9774
At the same time zoomers have an epidemic of violent sex where men choke or slap them unprompted during sex because their brains are broken by porn and girls dress up like Euphoria characters talking about wanting to become an Onlyfans model but on the other hand half of the zoomers act extremely puritan and like sex is always a degenerate act and not a normal part of life. Their relationship to sexuality is so polarized with no room for regular experimentation because it all has to be a grand performance, either by being an IRL porn star or a sex-repulsed preacher. Accessible internet porn at a young age with no sex education besides the abstinence-based kind has warped their minds.

>>9780
The point of life is to have gay sex, what are they on about

>>9780
then why do men have gspots in their asses

there's currently a huge tantrum thrown by yuritards on twitter about the ao3 list, when will they learn that no one will write their fics for them?

>>9801
>a huge tantrum thrown by yuritards
What a huge surprise.
Also on top of being lazy and not being good writers to begin with, why don't they bitch about the straight fics? why it's always us?

>>9801
Ah yes the annual spergout. The algorithm has shielded me from all discourse. Thanks Elon Musk.

>>9801
Literally every year without fail. When will they learn to just make their own content? Say what you will about furries but even the ones with the most disgusting niche fetishes will just make their own stuff or pump tons of money into artists who will draw it for them.

>>9807
They won't make their own content because they're not mad that yuri fics "don't exist" (they do) but because yaoi fics are a thing at all. That tweet that said something along the lines of "most of you people don't even like yuri, you just hate yaoi" hit the nail on the head.

They're now writing fanfiction about why AO3 was made.

>>9811
>>9801
ao3 is open source and full of self-submitted writing people make for free in their free time. yuritards are crying over something being popular and writers not creating something they want for free

>>9811
>>9801
Oh, it's the same retard.

>>9801
it's so funny how "thoughts on yaoi" is a constant topic in anglo fandom for the 20+ years I've been online and fujos always win anyway because they cook their own food kek.

>>9801
More about the content itself rather than numbers, yurifags contribute to their own erasure more than anyone else given they have 100x more tranny and futashit than any other category tbhdesu. Despite it all they still uphold their het in disguise fics as more woke/progressive than what fujos write so I don't feel bad for them at all kek

>>9801
I hate the person who keeps publishing these stupid lists that causes people to act like kpop stans and do the same anti fujoshi discourse that makes fandom unenjoyable for at least a week because everyone has to talk about it. Can that person get a real fucking job?

>>9811
The theory that fandom is becoming shit because the majority of people self-insert and can't comprehend that fanfic isn't always for self-insertion remains undefeated. This person can't read fic without needing a "literally me" character, then they accuse other people of erasing them because they're not writing fics with enough female characters experiencing romance. Even though she can go to traditional published books and get plenty of hetero content.

moralizing retards talking like this when they're really just upset hetshippers like this person. anyone that talks like this just hates that fujos don't like their ships.

>>9807
a lot of yuritards or girls that have "lesbian" in bio that i see always ship the most basic, run of the mill straight shit ever.
I just think it's different flavors of straight girls that wanna desperately feel unique because deep down they know they aren't, given everything they like is literally slop.
I mean 5 out of 6 of those girls play genshin impact and like kpop.

>>9836
>demon slayer pic
I just said they always like slop and I didn't even notice that profile pic, like clockwork lol

>>9811
Why doesn't she go to barnes and nobles to buy one of those female erotic bdsm books always on stock on the shelfs? Lots of them are on sale so it should be affordable for her kek.
Btw this went viral on twitter some time ago, it's the same thing.
Narcissistic people that think misogyny = doesn't care about me.
What worries them it's not women hate, it's hate for them personally.
They get personally offended when nobody wants to read about their wet dreams.
I mean everytime there is drama about bl it's always these people coping.

>>9840
It's always them thinking Hoyoverse is a lesbian company and then when their lesbian fave gets baited with the male mc they cry about it but then still don't admit that Hoyoverse is yuribaiting and not making "representation". This has always been a problem with gachafags who don't get that all girls raising idol games are for middle aged Japanese salarymen and not twitter teenagers.

>>9801
twitterfags need to realise that they are one of the major reasons for the lack of female character centric content. These people get extremely mad when someone interprets a female character in a different way from them. They think all girl characters should be written as uwu perfect girlbosses and if you write anything that mentions their flaws(you know, the things that make a character interesting?) or something that goes against their approved headcanons they will attack you and call you a misogynist, racist etc. This is also the reason why most femslash content doesn't get popular–because most of it is over sanitised and boring. I'm not even talking about actual 'problematic' content, but stuff like making all the girls be besties even when they canonically have conflict because 'le female solidarity' or fixing personality traits that they think are offensive….

I have a lot of female characters that I like and want to make content for but I avoid even talking about them beyond surface level because I don't want to get attacked and cancelled by one of these types of people.

Also is it just me, or are 90% of the people who get ultra defensive over female characters/celebrities usually comically misogynist against real life women? It feels like they just do this feminist act to absolve themselves of guilt about how terrible they actually are to other women.

>>9846
>are 90% of the people who get ultra defensive over female characters/celebrities usually comically misogynist against real life women?
They treat real life like it's fiction, and fiction like it's reality.

>>9831
>Can that person get a real fucking job?
Not anytime soon, I'm afraid. She's been at this for twelve years and counting.
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Centrumlumina
https://fanlore.org/wiki/AO3_Ship_Stats
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Why_M/M%3F

>>9848
I think the list is interesting to see what's currently on people's radar and to possibly motivate me to get into new stuff but it's unfortunate to see the reasoning being so cringe.

>>9848
The data is also not accurate, to my understanding: https://www.tumblr.com/5ummit/738707388904898560/ao3-ship-stats-year-in-bad-data
>>9849
Randomist1031 does the same thing but with better methodology and without the handwringing: https://archiveofourown.org/works/68516766

>>9848
I'm so tired. I'm so, so tired of this discourse. I recognize the strife people have when it comes to the lack of fanfiction focused on women, but these people should take their grievances to these big media conglomerates that absolutely fucking refuse to create engaging female characters, who only produce f/f and m/f ships that are slop (coom or not) through and through, and discuss this shit on a societal level of why women end up relating more to male characters and how it lets them live through the gender that isn't nerfed and has all the opportunities in the world instead of lashing out at the regular people simply working with the material they're given.

And not only that, the m/m slashfic scene was created at a time when the female representation was even worse than it is now and goes back so many decades, and it has become somewhat the symbol of female autonomy. There's so many doujins, fanfics, zines, fanart, etc. that has been created over that time, of course it's inspiring a bigger audience than f/f that's still being associated with moidgaze lesbian porn and a sneaky way for male writers to make a woman sexually/romantically accessible without cucking the men because female relationships aren't real relationships.

And for the third point, with m/f you don't NEED to create fanfic. Everything is canonized in the show and leaves nothing to the imagination, m/f is the dominating genre of romance across the board no matter where you look. There's nothing to titillate you into thinking "what if". None of these people have the same energy to attack men who only see female characters as something to defile sexually and hate female gaze male characters because they make them feel insecure. It's nothing more but a bad faith power trip and I refuse to acknowledge them until they learn to address the actual issues rather than crybullying fujos for writing 5000-word gay fics about their skrunklies and blorbos to share with other women because they know they will bend a knee and try to address the issue with sincerity.

>>9852
Using fanfic to spare the canon love interest from her disappointing romance where she is second banana to the homosocial antagonist/brother/friend/rival is the ultimate feminist move.

>but also resort to making fun of (female) rape victims and proudly proclaiming they don't care about women being sex traficked has really been insane
Literally when did this ever happen
Why are there so many falseflagging fakejoshis all of a sudden?

>>9855
At this point, I'm starting to question if its a psy op or if fauxjos are genuinely that stupid.

>>9855
There are a lot of """fujos""" on Lolcow that claim the label but have a terminal Not Like Other Fujos disease because the site is so anti-fujo you develop stockholm syndrome and start desperately licking antifujo boots to assimilate and stay on that hellsite without losing their minds. The amount of people there who unironically defend strict censorship without nuance as if we learned literally nothing from China or Russia where obscenity laws are exploited to ban anything even slightly opposing the status quo or the government is simply staggering. No, they won't ban porn and the laws aren't made to "protect children and women". It's pushing the envelope. People are being slowly boiled alive like frogs by first banning something sensible, and the next steps keep on coming. Pick up a goddamn book about how authoritarianism took over Russia.

>>9845
>girls raising idol games are for middle aged Japanese salarymen
Reality is so funny and messed up kek

>>9855
The post she's referring to said she didn't care about human trafficking victims and only about yaoi, but it was obviously bait from most likely an antifujo and yet for some reason that anon took it literal.

>>9855
>Literally when did this ever happen
I think it was picrel. Took ages for the bait to be banned so some newfag likely thought it was a real fujo saying this. Their own fault because typing something like this and posting it on LC screams bait.

>>9856
Its definitely a psyop. But you may still lose support over careless friendly fire. Especially when you drag already disenfranchised people.

>>9852
>why women end up relating more to male characters
*shrugs* I still do this even with good, strong women in the media. I actually complain more about not having enough good gay characters, or having them and then turning them straightish like Garak from Star Trek DS9 who was seemingly gay especially with the doctor guy but they had to force a female love interest for him too which muddled his sexuality more.
>but bisexuals exist!!
I am aware of it.