No.9400
>>9398yes and theyre called waifufags kek
No.9402
>>9400Waifufagging is kinda different from being a yume, just like how males don't "ship".
No.9890
I hate vaginas so much its unreaaaaal
No.9895
>>9890I understand being heterosexual but I hope you're at least neutral towards your own. Hating parts of your body is one of the most significant steps towards trooning out!
No.9943
>sees new fanfic for my rarish otp
>checks the tags
>smutty and a little dubious
>opens fic
>”cunt”
How dare she. It’s one thing to write troonslop on ao3, but it’s another to not have it mentioned anywhere in the tags. And she put it under anonymous so I can’t even block and mute her.
No.9944
>>9943Follow this tutorial, block something in the tags that identifies it, and enjoy the peace
https://archiveofourown.org/works/41589201/chapters/104315178 No.9947
>>9944There weren’t many tags and not a single one suggests cuntboy, but this is really useful. I ended up just blocking the entire fic, but I wish I could mute the creator so I never see her work ever. The downside of anonymous fics.
No.9949
>>9943I saw this happen in my niche fandom where the person even dared to tag "canon compliant" to the trannyfication fic. Not a single mention or tag of cuntboy or hell, even "penis in vagina sex", nothing. It's those type of people who are 100% convinced a character is tmasc and will make it your problem
No.9951
>>9943I've had this happen so many times it really makes me want to write some scathing hate comments towards the author next time I encounter another one kek. I don't even care how lowly it is to do so at this point.
No.9954
I'm seeing people being prosecuted like witches in a medieval rural town for giving deltarune's mc male pronouns. It's making me not wanna play the game. Why are fandoms so annoying about sexuality and gender shit. Who tf cares. They act like hesdcanons are political praxis or something and not me trying to see a cute boy take it up the ass
No.9955
>>9954the game is pretty good nona, at least in my opinion, its just a lot of the fandom are annoying gendies and overgrown children that take to neutral pronouns for a character like flies to shit, literally any comment online that says "he" will get the actual content of the comment or post completely ignored just to have the replies filled with "kris uses they/them" its annoying as fuck, i dont doubt theres people who ctrl f to look for mentions of he, kek
No.9956
>>9954>deltaruneyeahhhh.. unfortunatly it happens with childhood aesthetic content a lot, deltarune is a good game, it's just that media with bright, flashy visuals tends to draw in a certain crowd like moths to a flame.
No.9957
>>9954It's funny because Kris looks aggressively male to me unlike Frisk and Chara even though all three are going for "ambiguous player insert."
Game is worth playing especially chapter 2 though none of them have really scratched a shipping itch in the way Undertale does. Most of the fun male characters don't have an easy canon ship unless you like Kris/Ralsei. I've seen an uptick in Spamton/Tenna but imo that's born out of both being popular and neither having another good option.
Spoilers, but Tenna/Mettaton would be good given the start of chapter 4 but since Mettaton refuses to actually leave his house it's never going to catch on lol. No.9959
>>9957idk where youve been but mettatenna is semi popular its just overshadowed by spamtenna, and spamtenna isnt just popular because bpth characters are popular but also because the characters share a history and have canonically interacted in the past, i like all tenna ships but i hate how all the content drawn for it is troonslop where one has to have a pussy (the fanfics are also fucked)
No.9960
>>9959Oh that's good, I haven't checked in since like the week the game out and when I initially looked at Ao3 Mettaton/Tenna had like 3 fanfics. I'm aware Tenna/Spamton have a history but to put it bluntly I don't think it's particularly compelling in the game? No shade to people who like it but it's the kind of thing that I feel would be a rarepair in another fandom with other options. I felt the same way about Spamton/Mike and that was also popular though so maybe I just have shit takes.
If you make a Undertale or Deltarune thread on /f/ I'd use it nonna, I posted about it here when the new chapters dropped in the games thread, but since no one else seemed to have played them I didn't want to bother people.
No.9961
>>9954It's a shame because it's a really good game and it's building up to be more ambitious than Undertale. The reason why some gendies latch to it it's simply because the game uses they/them for Kris canonically, imo knowing Toby this doesn't mean being enbie but instead having an ambiguous character as a protagonist like in Undertale. I cannot see Kris as anything but male, I know there's a very select few who see him as female but it's either enbie or male what I see.
Tho the only place I saw people thinking he was a female was in lolcow and that seemed like it was to make ships like Kriselle and Krusie yuri and maybe even to be self insert ships but I didn't stay in the thread for long to say tbhThe game is really good but sadly you gotta ignore the fandom this time cuz of how annoying it is.
No.9962
To be fair I do think there's enough reason to consider that Kris is canonically non-binary, given the direction of chapters 3 and 4. But I simply don't believe non-binary genders are real because there's no research supporting it, and most importantly he's a fictional character. So idgaf about misgendering him, it's that simple.
Another thing that's hilarious is that despite people who insist on treating them like they are gender neutral, in reality Kris is de facto treated like any other male character, subjected to the same tropes and Kris/Ralsei is absolutely a fujo ship regardless of gender discourse lmao
No.9965
>>9962>But I simply don't believe non-binary genders are real because there's no research supporting it, and most importantly he's a fictional character.I'd accept it for a robot character or an alien, but for a human character it doesn't make logical sense to me.
No.10021
>>9965Eh, I don't mind it if the person in question is intersex? Idk, I'm not as anal with gendieshit as long as it gets out of the way? Too many nb characters could've worked better as gnc men or women but somehow being a normal man or woman is too much for gendies.
No.10034
>>10021Don't you know? Being a bit masculine as a woman means you are not a real woman! Being a bit feminine as a man means you are not a real man! This is progressive somehow. Don't ask many questions about this mentality or you're a bigot btw
No.10042
I just don't get why in things that are meant to be some sort of fantasy setting, people still have to say the character is "a trans man".
Like, you could just think that men of that certain race have a pussy and that's it. But it's the whole VALIDATION aspect that is grating. Needing to have all the irl aspects of being trans, and needing those acknowledged, even if it'd make no sense in a fantasy setting because you could just write a cuntboy as if it were fucking normal there. If the "norm" of the fantasy setting is for men to have a pussy, then there's no special factor to it, does it? And I guess that's what they don't like. It HAS to be special to be a trans man, writing about it being SPECIAL and UNIQUE.
No.10045
>>10042I assume it's just because they are grasping for rep but don't want to actually engage with more adult media written by trans people with trans people in mind (and all the realities that come with it).
There are a couple canonically trans characters I can think of where magic exists and or they are non-human and can shapeshift whatever equipment they want so it's like what's the big deal? At that point it's just powerful wizardry and there is no HRT/SRS. Mention it once and move on (Turkey from Dorohedoro comes to mind here).
My biggest beef with "queer is normal" fantasy is that they often don't add a new sexual discrimination and while I can suspend my disbelief about dragons or whatever, believing humans collectively just Don't Do That Anymore really takes me out of it. Maybe I'm just too cynical!
No.10050
>>10045> but don't want to actually engage with more adult media written by trans people with trans people in mindBecause trannies of all types are notoriously bad writers
No.10052
I actually like cuntboys because I personally like pussy, but the mentality that everything has to be representation is so grating. I'm not trying to "represent" the trans experience by giving this guy a pussy just like I'm not trying to do social work for gay men by writing two guys fucking. Shipping is not political praxis, I just think it's hot.
No.10053
>>10052Same, I think pussy is hot but it's just a fetish for me in BL.
I read Mr A's Farm yesterday and loved it kek No.10063
>>10052Tell me about it. When did a fetish become a political statement? The last thing I want to think about when I am horny are political implications.
No.10089
>>10052I've been thinking lately that I'm more annoyed by the handmaidens than the actual gendies. From a gendie PoV I can understand that they want to see and normalise themselves and they'll just put a trans flag in their bio so I can avoid them. Meanwhile there's an artist called Bramblefix whose art I'll see around sometimes cause other people like it and I have a personal vendetta against her cause she put a girl in the background of a drawing that was supposed to be a guy orgy in the woods. Literally just being an annoying handmaiden pushing propaganda in the background and ruining art I would've loved otherwise.
No.10094
>>10089I looked her up and she seems like an 'anything goes' kind of artist.
But what is this handmaidens thing? From what I get in your post it sounds like something I would also hate as much as you do.
No.10521
I don't see a problem if they aren't being total retards. probably jst cause im "woke" and have transgender friends.
No.10522
>>10521The only problem is FTMshit being mixed together with regular BL instead of people taking steps to keep it separate and suggesting anyone does this will get you death threats because you don't see trans BL as 'true BL'.
But I guess I feel the same about hetbend BL still being put under the fujo tag on pixiv and lumped under BL in doujin events.
No.10523
>>10522This. At least yurifags mark futashit as separate and any attempts at trying to normalize not tagging futa is frowned upon. But in the bl side, surprise vagina will be untagged because of the author and barely anyone cares. And if you voice dissent, people come out of the woodworks to cry transphobia and how normal people don’t tag for dick in their bl.
No.10524
>>10521I don't want to feel obligated to play along with any Aiden's gay man LARP. I don't want to walk on eggshells when Aiden claims to be a real gay man and that her opinions on BL / whatever are more important than a random straight woman's opinions. I don't want to feel obligated to validate TIFs in fandom when they feel sad and insecure about having a vagina.
I want to filter trans shit out and not have to deal with TIFs arguing that it's not heterosexual. I don't want people expecting me to write or draw transgender headcanons. It would be nice just to come out and say that I don't care without being attacked.
I view trans stuff as a weird secular pseudo-religion. I don't hate trans-identified people, but I also don't want to play along. The same way I have Mormon acquaintances but don't want to mindlessly affirm weird shit about John Smith. I think the ideology is wrong in the sense that it's simply not true (everyone has an internal gender identity) like how other religions aren't true. But there's also additional harm in the sexism of the ideology and how the trans community encourages bodily harm. I at least don't want to engage in my hobby spaces.
No.10525
>>10524I feel the same but I actively hate religion so same goes for the trans cult.
No.10528
>>10523lol that's not true at all. I was in a Yuri discord sever a couple years ago that was kinda decimated by internal discourse because someone said it was forbidden to warn/tag for mtf stuff because doing so was transphobic. I remember some people saying they prefer the tag to exist because they had trauma and the mod telling them to basically deal with it and get fucked lmaooo
Yuri fandoms are way more politicizes than BL fandoms, believe it or not.
>>10524Nonna, not to bring discourse here but transexuality represents an actual distinct neurological phenotype. I agree that many self identified trans people are larpers because it's trendy or whatever, but there is a scientific background to actual transexuality, it's not a belief to the people actually suffering from it (which are only a fraction of the people who id as trans).
No.10529
>>10524Yeah u def aren't obligated to do anything. I despise when they act like their opinions are above regular womens, it's a clear show of jealousy towards BL characters since they have something FTMs don't. thankfully my FTM friends aren't braindead and make the distinction between FTM content and smth like cuntboy for example. all proship/pro tagging system as well. Different people exist everywhere in every space ig
No.10530
>>10528Was the discord majority men or majority women because majority-men spaces draw the distinction more unless they're MtFs
No.10532
>>10528>scientific background to actual transexualitynta but it was a classified as a mental illness some time ago i think? anyway transtrenders or not none of us are still required to care
No.10533
>>10532Gender dysphoria is a disorder, being transexual isn't. But being transexual is not a delusion, their brains are actually wired in a way where they expect the body to look a certain way, and that's where the distress comes from (dysphoria).
I mean you don't have to care, and I don't say this to mean people should be posting untagged PiV in BL tags lmao. But I think it's good to keep in mind actual transexual people are not delusional larpers, they are struggling with a serious disorder. So it's not like a religious belief, and it's good to have compassion in that sense, regardless of weirdos in fandom spaces. Just my two cents.
No.10534
>>10532>>10533Wasn't this the truscum or something medical debacle of some years ago? That you can only be trans if you do experience dysphoria or not iirc. I think most people nowadays consider "transness" literally just a feeling.
I dunno, I'd imagine that if I was a FtM tranny I wouldn't fucking want to see a vagina in BL because I'd be reminded I have one that I don't want? But most TIFs don't feel dysphoric enough for that, and do the whole PIV BL so they can feel "confident" about "being a boy with a pussy"
No.10535
>>10534>I'd imagine that if I was a FtM tranny I wouldn't fucking want to see a vagina in BL because I'd be reminded I have one that I don't wantI always thought so too. If you have dysphoria and feel uncomfortable with your body parts why would you want to see them and be reminded of them?
Feels like it's a fetish for a lot of these people.
No.10537
>>10535IIRC doesn't T also make PIV more painful/difficult in real life as well? Also pretty sure someone on hormones can't get pregnant/can't carry which defeats the purpose of a lot of this stuff being written just for 'mpreg' breeding kink lol
There are definitely many people who just want to write cuntboy fetish but think it has to be labeled trans similar to futas beng labeled intersex despite not being a possible RL thing.
No.10541
>>10540I'm not sure I agree with her about the root of why so many TIFs hate fujos despite consuming BL themselves. But I agree they should be mocked. Since this person is a TIF like you said she has cognitive dissonance so the most she can do to interpret their anti-fujo behavior is attributing to jealousy (which I'm sure is definitely a motivator of why they transition but not of why they hate fujos). She unconsciously realizes TIFs and fujos are in the same category but she won't allow herself to think that because thinking females have stuff in common with other females is Bad(tm) and their NLOG behavior is just plain absurd.
No.10542
>>10541she’s a self proclaimed fudanshi and proshipper with most of her profile is dedicated to BL. I think another better reasoning to why most TIFs hate fujoshis could be because we won’t cater to them and consume content centring them, but what she said didn’t feel entirely implausible to me. I really am curious about the root cause of it Lol
No.10544
>>10540Oh hey, that’s my mutual….. They tweet a lot about believing that anti fujo ftms are jealous of gay bio males, I agree to an extent I guess. Though I feel even if they weren’t anti fujos they’d still be jealous of bio males.. No?
No.10545
>>10543Seconding, luff shou.
No.10546
>>10540Seemingly unpopular but I kind of agree here. (may be biased, I’m a korean gal) transgenders have this bizarre need to be desired and with how east asians are fetishised I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case. If it were fuckin idk indians or africans they’d wanna be them. whatever is most desirable