No.9480
>>9406everyday we invent new words to say someone is bisexual
No.9481
>>9431There are a few, i befriended a fudanshi who's just a regular slightly feminine gay guy. He likes old shojo and yaoi, but not shipping. I think you're right, shipping seems almost exclusively female
>>9480Kekk but seriously, lot of the time when men say they're 'bisexual' they're really describing one of the fetishes
>>9431 listed
No.9483
>>9481>shipping seems almost exclusively femaleThat does seem like its on par for the course since women are the ones that mostly consume romance. Shipping itself also has more to do with people's social lives and how healthy or chronically online they are.
Don't want to pry much but did that fudanshi have a normal, healthy life?
Even if weebs don't involve themselves the same way as women with shipping, they will still throw a hissy fit when their hero doesn't get the girl, although they are more prone to waifufagging to the same unhealthy levels anyway.
And I was just now checking up a group chat where someone posted a sticker of a straight couple and they later mentioned that they were their favorite pairing. They like to ship but they don't dive too deep into it.
Personally I barely ever took an interest in m/f relationships (and never touched upon f/f) and would never read romance or care about relationships. But when it came to m/m it all changed and got those feelings of fuzziness and fulfillment that are akin to having a strong crush or adoration on someone.
No.9485
>>9483Yeah! He's pretty chill and normal, didn't seem to be a coomer or a retarded shonenfag. He's one of those male manga fans that like niche/old manga and discuss it as art. We never talked about powerscaling or any fandom-typical things, it's more about artstyle and writing. Oh and i just remembered he's not gay gay, i think he dated a woman or two but he mostly dates men. If you saw him you'd just assume he's gay
No.9488
>>9485That must be it. Just a relatively normal guy that doesn't need escapism to sate his needs lol
No.9661
>talking about Epstein birthday letters with a guy I know
>he says that when he first read it he thought that the letter seemed like a secret gay relationship between Trump and Epstein
Ngl reality aside, its crazy but the more I thought of it a super secret gay relationship between two rich older guys where one of them becomes a criminal and then dies under mysterious circumstances while the other is too troubled emotionally to come out of the closet but is still implicated in the crimes because his gay letters were really vague is a pretty premise honestly.
No.9675
>>9661This is the worst thing I've read all day. Nay, perhaps even all year so far.
No.10778
I've met a few fudanshi and one of them admitted to using fujochan. They were all gay incels so that isn't so surprising. I don't really have a problem with them beyond them being creepy towards any guy who is feminine but it is nice to talk to BL fans who are not going to try to one up me constantly on degen shit.
Also (anecdotal obviously) they might be more into extreme stuff? All of the fudanshi I know are into ero guro and other hard kinks.
No.10788
>>10778>gay incelsThey exist?
No.11906
i do not like these guys, its not like i have a issue with them into yaoi (i think thats fine). but i seen how they behave and honestly, i dont get why we get most of the hate when these guys arent any better.
their personality only consist in being gay and liking yaoi, nothing else. they do probably have hobbies and other interests, but they barely talk about it because they want you know how much they're a fudanshi. in some cases they likely never read nor watched anything that is labeled BL/yaoi unless it is fan conent or anything western. if they tried to actually read or watch one, they'd most likely won't like it.
i know this sounds harmless, but i swear. these people are the WORST.
for some appearent reason many of them are just assholes??? i know this should be obvious because men are assholes, but i only knew two who are nice. TWO. like i seen them interact with others and they always try to start fights and piss off others. i don't know if i'm making assumption, but in many such cases; the worst kind of people i came across to are boys who are really really really into bl, not sure if they're all fudanshis but i see a pattern. they also love to say vulgar things and being open about their fetishes, i know like two or three who had the word "segma" on their username,others yell very nasty things whenver they're agruing to make their opponent leave so they can try to "win" in the agrument. they know that makes other people hate them, and that's kind of their goal. they love to be someone's annoyance. of course not all of them are like this, but many just love being an asshole.
No.11909
>>11906Sounds like you're talking about TIFs not fudans tbh.
No.11911
>>11906Gotta agree with
>>11909 here. You sure those weren't TIFs claiming they're heckin' true and valid "fudanshi?"
No.11913
>>11909In all my years of enduring tiffany filled fandoms I have yet to see a smegma fetishizer, but men seem to be obsessed with it, both gay and straight.
No.11920
>>11913I forgot what smegma was so I looked it up and almost threw up lol
No.11921
>>11920It's so gross but I guess it's like other bodily fluids. If you blow your nose, you're okay with handling the tissue and it's not freak out material if you need to wash your hand of it. But if it's someone else's snot there's a mental line crossed and every second your hand isn't washed feels really bad. Since I've never had a dick, a dick thing will always be in the get it the fuck off me category, instead of something I could calmly go wash my hands of. I got no desensitization at all.
No.11922
>>11911I don't know, but i usually don't care if they're trans. I know everyone here has issues with them but to me it's not something that i'm worried about.
Also to clarify, i don't hate fudanshis, i just don't trust them.
No.11924
>>11922>I know everyone here has issues with them but to me it's not something that i'm worried aboutI think the point is that you can't put trans 'fudans' in the same category as regular fudans because 99% of the time their behavior is the same as fujos except with a lot more overcompensation and/or shitting on fujos to make themselves feel more valid, including the 'making yaoi their entire identity' thing. Sometimes fudans join in on the fujo bullying if they're the misogynistic type, though, but they're less likely to complain on the basis of stereotypical 'toxic yaoi tropes' and more on the fujo content not being manly enough for them.
Rule of thumb is if you see he/him or he/they in bio it's an Aiden, adjust expectations accordingly.
No.12056
Places like /cm/ are full of fundanshi. Issue is, they're all violently misogynistic kek.
No.13140
>>12056>Places like /cm/ are full of fundanshi. Issue is, they're all violently misogynistic kek.How do they even end up talking about women there?
No.13142
>>11924I’ve encountered a few honest to goodness fudanshi, but yeah if you see the he/they pronouns then 99.9% of the time it’s a TIF. The real fudanshi (as in actual biological men who are also into yaoi/BL/shipping and engage in the same stuff as fujos) I’ve met were all millennial/Gen Z gay Asian men who were also into Asian media like dramas and anime.
>>12056Idk, it’s NAMBLA central up there so idk if I would consider them true and honest fudanshis
>>13140They’re like normie gay men, they talk down on fujos and stuff fujos like…despite enjoying fujo-made manga and art.
No.13149
>>12056These "fundanshi" you talk about…they're not very FUN are they?
*badum-tsssss*
No.13177
>>13151You would hope men experiencing oppression would make them more sympathetic to women but that's not the world we live in.
No.13183
>>13182I'm sorry but that's not what I meant at all
>>men who talk about how much they despise women and want to molest irl children are funnyOh come on shotacons be they males or females don't want to molest any real boys, in the same way that we enjoy ryona in our yaoi but know that it's a bad thing in real life and wouldn't support those types of couples.
>women shouldn't criticize those men because being killed as an infant, get mutilated, forcibly married as a child, denied education, being seen as unclean, treated as subhuman since birth, have our bodies used as breeding cattle, is a non-issueI find it doubtful that all these sexual crimes are commited by men who don't even feel sexual arousal for women
>>being killed as an infantSure… gay men do that to the daughters that their partners birth… Maybe in the omegaverse?
>>is a non-issueI didn't say those things are a non-issue, I said which reproductive organ one has is a non-issue, and I know it's awful that men turned it into an issue but my whole thesis is that it's straight men that rape and mistreat women, not gay incels who sometimes use the term "foid" which has been popularised all over 4chan unfortunately (but which was originally used by straight incels).
No.13188
>>13183>it's straight men that rape and mistreat women, not gay incels who sometimes use the term "foid"either way if someone’s being a dick no one is required to just put up with it. gay men shouldn’t be getting free passes for their misogyny.
>>13177 is right
No.13192
>>13183But the issue is that fudanshi can be misogynistic in the same way and things often come down to the "them versus us" mentality that plagues gender wars. Having a bad relationship with your mom or bad socialization growing up doesn't excuse being a shit person once you've had more experience in life, and I've seen /cm/ saying some incredibly nasty things about so-called gross women and fujos.
There are plenty of cool fudan that give and receive respect, so I don't have sympathy for men that stopped growing emotionally at age 13. There's a reason most of the women who used that board in the 2010s are long gone.
No.13193
I see the scrote defense brigade is still well and alive here. Disappointing.
No.13195
I don't go on /cm/ but do we have any proof it's mainly men there and not just majority TIFs LARPing? Do they mainly like bara or something?
No.13196
>>13195I currently have 30 threads that include the word "shota" filtered on that board, biological women don't like little boys that much.
No.13197
>>13196You'd be surprised, female shota fans definitely exist.
No.13198
>>13151So you are blaming their mothers now?
>Let's be serious it's straight men that have always held women down and committed violence against our bodies, meanwhile homos always had a more gentle soulahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahah
No.13199
>>13183>I find it doubtful that all these sexual crimes are commited by men who don't even feel sexual arousal for womenIt doesn't matter what you find doubtful, have you ever heard of bugchasing? they do it even with pregnant women btw, also gay men are literally the 1%, they are the richest mfs on earth, running beauty industry,fashion industry, and obviously the cosmetic surgery industry. And not only that but the movie elites are literally full of gay men, but yeah no gay men in your eyes are still soft bois so that view will never change.
No.13200
>>13183>shotacons be they males or females don't want to molest any real boysI'm a shotacon anon and I know this isn't true. Maybe not all but there are many male ones who are pedophiles and they admit it. There used to be threads with realistic art on /cm/ too, that was when I finally decided I'll never use it again.
No.13201
>>13200Someone admitting they're an honest to god pedophile on 4chan should lead to an immediate permaban, same with posting realistic loli/shota
No.13203
>>13198>>13199>>13200If you think all males are misogynistic rapists why do you care about what happens to young boys? /srs
No.13219
>>13203are you seriously comparing children to grown ass men? after i even listed the reasons why, all you got from that is that I must equally hate the children too?
Is your sense of morality so fucked that you think children are the same as grown adults that abuse them?
>srslol go back to tiktok
No.13220
>>13197I used to use /cm/ a lot in the 2010's and there were never THAT many shota threads. The board demographics have definitely shifted.
No.13221
>>13203How do you people even find this place?
No.13222
>>13219>>13221For real, only special types of people use tone tags without a hint of irony
No.13223
>>13220Maybe it's not the demographics, but the psyops by political actors have intensified. You can see it on other small boards as well, like /m/, where stuff like 'woman moment' get posted even though that board was never historically misogynistic and its autistic userbase couldn't care less about stuff other than robots and their waifus from robot shows.
No.13225
>>13224This is why I never liked shotafags, you give them an inch and they will use it to push you out of your own space
No.13227
>>13140I don't know why but gay guys on 4chan cannot stop blogging about their personal lives while posting porn. Like you can open a gay furry porn thread on /trash/ and they'll be discussing their taxes and what to buy mom for her birthday.
>>13224Is this the same /vp/ guy who bugged girls for nudes on discord? He can't claim credit for /cm/ not having any assigned mods - that was the case for at least a decade before the no-girls-allowed Pokeboy threads moved over.
No.13229
>>13227>I don't know why but gay guys on 4chan cannot stop blogging about their personal lives while posting pornThe only explanation I can think of for this is that they don't have many other people to connect with, so they try to bond with anons who like the same porn they do because they're that lonely.
No.14354
>>14353
Read the rules my guy. They’re going to ban you.
No.14478
Found a fudanshi on tumblr who reblogs a lot of furry bara art, has a boyfriend, and even has posted his face + videos of himself… and also various bishie fanarts (some gay some just solo pieces) and has even said he's currently reading a PHM fanfiction (unfortunately I don't think it's with the Rock but instead with the Markiplier character). The first of his kind I've seen on tumblr with actual evidence that he's male and I'm just very surprised.
No.14479
>>14478A man on tumblr who isn't a TIM is very rare indeed, fudan or not. Any ships in particular he posts a lot?
No.14520
>>14479Okay the PHM fanfic was genfic (sadly) with Rocky/Adrian in the bg but there's a big focus on Grocky (and he's called it "doomed space yaoi" after watching the movie) so I consider that a win anyways. Here's what I've seen on his blog:
>self ships with Bob Heeler>abrams x lash x venator from deadlock>alhazred x barristan>charlie x carlisle>writes ff about cheating on a gf with her dad>bowsuigi>that one DR ship w/ the goat king and the deer>rpf art of the showrunners from Miraculous>ship from the movie Unhinged>the nice guys shipI don't feel like scrolling through anymore because I keep seeing the most hideous men, both real & fictional so that's all I noticed.
No.14524
>>14520fudanshi and barafag is different imo.
I know guys that like bishies.