No.3795
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
As long as the characters are in character it doesn't matter much to me.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
In original BL usually the uke since they tend to fulfill arctypes I like more. Cute, easily flustered, ect.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
I really just want there to be a canon basis, in original works though there are clear things I enjoy like pining seme.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
Turtle for sure.
No.3796
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
Fixed only.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
Uke. Very rare for me to get attached to a seme, and if it does happen my mind will slowly morph them into an uke if it's not a character from a BL.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
It just has to make sense in the characters and stories' context. I've gone into stories where in the beginning I'm like why is he the uke? But as I read on I caught on as to why.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
Snake.
No.3797
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
I used to be okay with riba and actively sought it out, but as I’ve gotten older, I developed a preference for fixed positions.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
Seme
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
I enjoy both
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Gecko, or Turtle fujo?
Gecko
For OP pic, I’m a narusasu truther.
No.3799
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
Depends on the ship. Some are definitely reversible, some I prefer fixed.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
Uke all the way. I read yaoi to see my fav drilled. If I wanted to see a man top, I'd read het porn.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
I prefer it when it's more ambigious, but it all depends on the characters.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
Snake generally.
No.3800
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
For original BL I'll only read fixed. For shipping fixed 99% of the time but I have 1-2 ships where I'm fine with reversible, still usually have a preference though.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
Uke.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
I've enjoyed both scenarios so I dunno really. Maybe leaning ambiguous nowadays because pairings where it's obvious tend to have FSOG dom seme/cinnamon roll uke dynamics which I don't like that much.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
Slug.
No.3801
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
Riba, all the way. For all pairings, I'll usually switch up tags.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
I'll usually focus on the uke but I tend to dislike emotionless super seme. I like tit for tat relationships where who is in control changes, even if their positions don't.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
Ambiguous, but I like to imagine what situations would switch roles up regardless.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
Turtle Snail, the slowest combo.
No.3804
>>3794>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?A mix. Weeb stuff tends to be fixed whereas western is more loose. In a lot of eastern media when the more popular fixed ship (AB) has a reverse tag (BA) it often feels like two completely different characters, almost like we read different stories. The semes tend to get interpreted as tsundere bottoms and I haaaaaaate tsundere bottoms.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?I like them about equally. When there is too big of a disparity I can't ship them. There was this one dude I liked but hated his top 3 ships (like 99% of all fanfic with him) so I ejected myself from the fandom earlier than normal.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?Ambiguous, but sometimes I get butthurt when the fixed pair I prefer is the unpopular one in fandom lol. In original BL this doesn't matter.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?Frogail with latent slug tendencies.
For SNS I think I lean Sasunaru, despite not knowing much about what actually happens in Naruto. In general I prefer the seme to be the unhappier one who is also in mental anguish over the uke and I think that's Sasuke right?
No.3805
>>3794>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?Always both. I need to see my favorite moan like a bitch but I also want him (or rather both) to be sexy and dominant sometimes. The pairings I like allow this since there is no real power gap that would make it out of character I think. Basically this
>>3803>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?In works with pre-defined roles? Usually the seme. Uke if he's gap moe and looking like a seme, not a fan of usual moe (don't like weakness and insecurity nor the other stuff most people associate with cuteness).
If it's about my ships then I prefer the one I imagine as uke more often lol, so uke I guess. I guess my urge to see him moan is just stronger or more common than the urge to imagine him dicking someone else. 2/3 for me. My fav is bottoming in 2/3 of the cases and dominating in 1/3 of them.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?Ambiguous. I don't like classic uke/seme, nor do I like 99% of the het pairings because of that.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?I had to google this. Turtle, if I found the correct explanation.
No.3806
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
Depends. I don't have a strong preference towards one or the other usually, but I am picky about characterization and a lot of the time people will write A/B very differently from B/A.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
I like everyone! But my favorites are usually semes.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
I'm fine with both, but I enjoy somewhat atypical dynamics (i.e. I am a dominant bottom enthusiast) so I tend to gravitate towards more ambiguous pairings where it feels like there's more room for people to get creative.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
Turtle with gecko tendencies. I consume all sorts of trash, then whine about it being trash while my face is still in the garbage bin.
No.3807
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
Fixed only, but I'm a multishipper so a character might top or bottom depending on who he's paired with, but the positions in any given pairing are always fixed, if that makes sense.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
It fluctuates since the characters can switch from top to bottom depending on who they're paired with, so both I guess? But I do think my oshi is a lot cuter when he's the uke :]
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
I'm old fashioned so obviously defined.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
snake-slug-snail-gecko hybrid? It's too complicated kek this might be the reason I have a hard time fitting in in fandom spaces. No one gets my highly specific brand of autism.
Also for sasunarusasu, it's so damn hard to decide!! Sasuke is such a fucking bottom but at the same time, it's so cute when Naruto bottoms so I really can't choose. It's a matter of deciding who I'd rather see get railed the most, and when both characters have uke vibes sacrifices must be made. I guess I can bestow the honour of being a seme to Sasuke just this once though, since Naruto getting fucked by his favourite person in the whole world is too good to pass up.
No.3808
>>3807>Also for sasunarusasu, it's so damn hard to decide!! Sasuke is such a fucking bottom but at the same time, it's so cute when Naruto bottoms so I really can't choose. It's a matter of deciding who I'd rather see get railed the most, and when both characters have uke vibes sacrifices must be made. I guess I can bestow the honour of being a seme to Sasuke just this once though, since Naruto getting fucked by his favourite person in the whole world is too good to pass up.So true. The idea of Naruto being fucked is gold, but I love good NaruSasu too. I wish they could both be ukes somehow
No.3817
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
I'm 99% of the time a fixed ship enjoyer. Sometimes I like reverse but it's usually characters that are very balanced out like similar height, status, personality etc.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
Both are important to me, but I'm personally way more emotionally invested in the uke because I get easily protective over them, like a little brother kek. I'm also aesthetically way more into pretty twinks than muscular characters.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
I guess I like ships where the roles are obviously defined? I can't really come up with examples of more ambiguous roles unless this is referring to things like powerbottoms and service tops. Which I'm also into.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
I vary a lot between franchises but most of the time I'm a slug with snail tendencies.
No.3818
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
I like riba, but i can sometimes be rigid about fixed positions. Some ships call for no riba
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
I like both at once, but i favor the uke
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
Ambiguous
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
Turtle with snail and snake tendencies
No.3831
>>3794>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?It really depends. If I like both characters a lot and have certain ways I'd imagine them being, I can open myself up to switch (but only if I make it). Otherwise, if I'm going to be seeing it, I'd rather be it fixed.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?The uke, but that's because I make my favorite character into the uke most of the time. Even more so because I'm the 'old man uke' type, or just small top/big bottom.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?I detest ships that feel so blatantly semeuke coded. The big, angsty, powerful seme that will subdue the small, somewhat effeminate, short and innocent-ish uke. I loathe them with a passion. It might be the basis of yaoi 101 but I just hate it. I'll always find ways to make even the most masculine man be mobbed no matter what.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?Snailfrog. Almost snake-like in some occasions but I tend to be more fixed than otherwise.
No.3833
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
Fixed positions for sure, there's a yin and yang to it that riba throws all out of wack
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
I generally find ukes to be more compelling, and they're often the main character so they get more fleshed out than semes do
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
As a couple other anons said, "obviously defined" roles can lead to boring/unappealing dynamics between a stoic seme and meek uke
Leaving it ambiguous lets them be characters first and roles second
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
Sssssss I'm a slithery little snaky snake
>I want this thread to be about discussing which character should be seme or uke in certain pairings
I'm part of the NaruSasu brigade, but I can see why people prefer SasuNaru, it's a really well-balanced ship
Victuuri is one I remember people shipped both ways, but I was always plain and liked seme Victor/uke Yuuri
No.3847
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
Absolutely not, Im very very strict with fixed positions. Though my schizo fixed tendencies are only contained within my circle, I can maintain tolerance around riba/landmine fujos and can generally see eye to eye with their preferences even if i think its shit taste as I always put a fujo first, everything else second.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
Fave character is usually the uke but I sometimes have fave character seme.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
It depends; if its regarding appearances, I love juxtapositions where the stereotypically masculine and "seme-like" character is the uke and the smaller "uke-like" character is the seme. I dont really stick to defined tropes like "blonde uke" or "stoic seme" since I usually find an exception character that could check all the lists of what I like in a seme but I perceive him as a uke.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Gecko, or Turtle fujo?
Snail and Snake fujo, I rarely ship nowadays and prefer to put men through the wringer with mob characters, but I take my otps seriously and I fixate on them for life.
im very scared of frog and turtle shippers and immediately block them on the spot as self defense lol….
No.3848
My problem with fixed positions is that only like pairings where both characters are on the same level so it's hard to choose who the uke and who the seme are. They have different strengths and weaknesses but if you attribute points to the strengths and add them all up both of them would roughly reach the same sum.
Because of this you could always list just as many reasons for why character A is topping as for why B might be the one. This is why I am always fine with switching. I would get fixed positions if it was a classic uke/seme ship, but if one of the characters is an older master of swords with normal body strength but top tier techniques for example and the other character is younger but a strong beefy dude that doesn't rely on sword techniques but can punch and is juvenile but smart who would be the top?
You could say the older one is wiser and he has experience, so he tops. But you might also say that the younger one is physically stronger and more motivated, so he is the one that tops. Or you like old, grumpy dudes cheering up thanks to being with a more juvenile character. Or the other way around, a juvenile character being reined in by the older dude that puts him into his place.
Usually such interpretations can co-exist without changing the interpretation of the characters. I usually start with a position until I think about it deeper or see others' interpretations and think "wow yeah, that would work as well".
No.3854
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
Similar to other anons if it's well written and in character I can enjoy whatever, especially since a lot of ships I like are less popular and beggars can't be choosers. I definitely have my preferences though. For some ships, I get unreasonably pissed if the characters are written in the wrong positions and can't get off, its like blasphemy to me.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
Uke for sure, but most of time I end up loving both characters. But for the uke I will read work with other characters while I won't read seme with others.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
Hmmm…. I often fond of ships where who I think the uke and seme is goes against common opinion (I like physically tough ukes and I am naturally a contrarian) so I guess ambiguous even if it's clearly defined in my head. Either way I think ambiguous is much more fun and I find stereotypical uke and seme tropes boring.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
Snake mainly. (Can be snail if no good parings in work or slug/frog for my OTP.)
No.3877
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
Riba/reversed is okay if I'm just casually into the pairing and browsing fanart just for the aesthetics, but I become more fixed the more attached to the pairing/characters I get. All my OTPs are fixed.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
Usually uke. I have some pairings where I like the seme more which is usually annoying because people love to multiship the uke but I ONLY want to see him with my fave.
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
I like a lot of pairings with major size difference and I consistently want the smaller one to bottom. So, very much defined in the visual sense, but not necessarily personality-wise. I like a lot of gap moe tough guy bottoms.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
My heart is slug, but snake in practice (can look at sou-uke/mob content with my favourite bottom but the OTP is endgame)
No.4189
>>4188Ngl even if he was with a woman shinji is definitely a uke, as hit as the idea of Kaworu taking dick is to me I cannot fathom shinji using anything but his butthole for sexual activity
No.4190
>>4188>>4189I don't know he was agressive with Asuka so I don't think topping is out of the question. If he was to initiate sex I think he'd cry about it for an hour later since he'd feel like he used somone.
No.4191
>>4188I usually love switching and for most of the pairings I am into it feels in-character but I am the same as
>>4189 here, I cannot for the love of my life imagine Shinji as anything but the bottom lol
He teaches Shinji what love and fun are and makes him aware of his own feelings and all that, he is the leader and active part of the relationship and Shinji is the one giving in.
No.4204
>>4203I love this meme and want to fill it up with 2D series instead of 3D western stuff, maybe starting with Osomatsu-San since there's so many ship combinations.
From most likely to least likely to top imo: Kara > Oso > Choro > Ichi = Jyushi > Todo
No.4205
>>4204>OsomatsuGoddamn people are still into that?
No.4206
>>4203>Kaiba on top row…Que
No.4207
>>4206He pays the person he's having sex with to let him top
No.4210
>>4204>Kara > Oso > Choro > Ichi = Jyushi > TodoHoly shit your brain is massive anon. So many people get this simple hierarchy wrong.
No.4211
>>4204>>4210Sorry but I can't see Todo bottoming at all. He's such a whiny bitch I think he'd withhold sex until he got his way topping. Total bitch move and his brothers would just give in since he isn't worth dealing with.
Todo>Oso>Kara>Jyushi>Choro>Ichi
No.4212
>>4203Can somebody upload this meme template please? I want fill it but deviantart doesn't load for me
No.4226
>>4213I think all pairings I was ever into were seme/uke by choice or switch. I love equal power levels and them having a similar amount of strong points and weaknesses so it's to be expected I guess.
No.4236
>>4213maybe in the context of fandom but this isn't what these terms really mean.
dom/switch/sub is about your role.
top/seme and bottom/uke is about what you do - pitching or catching. if you do either, you're vers - versatile.
No.4840
>>4839>Lord/retainer>Mentor/mentee>Characters who are like visual mirror images or counterparts, especially hero/villain ones>Power couples>Rivalships>Age gap>Monsterboy/human, I especially like a guy with a monster on a leash under his control by some contract like SebaCiel>Plain dude/hot dude (hot dude is simp for plain dude, plain dude is unimpressed with hot dude or oblivious)I like reverse so I'm usually not picky about who bottoms/tops, but I usually have a preference towards balancing out the power dynamic. Like, if one guy raised the other, I'll probably prefer him bottoming, but it's not a hard and fast rule.
There are also some dynamics, like human guys topping monsters or heroes domming villains, that I'm more keen on seeing just because of how rare they are, even if I like the roles in reverse just as well.
I think I have some more rules of thumb:
>The more obnoxious a guy is, the more I want him to get his ass destroyed>The sadder, older (including immortals) and angstier a guy is, the more I want him to get his ass destroyed, preferably by a much younger guy >Smug sluts, S types, and mentors are great for power bottoming No.4854
>>4839This applies to both BL and my ships from non-BL media, but
>This one super specific dynamic where one (preferably wealthy) guy seduces a repressed, uptight guy into doing evil shit or something otherwise against his moral compass. I prefer if the uptight guy is the seme, but it's not a requirement.>Two characters too emotionally constipated to properly communicate what they're actually thinking or feeling. Bonus points if they're friends beforehand. Whoever is more in denial or more prideful about it should be the uke, but again, not a requirement.>One character who's WAY more enthusiastic about the relationship than the other, who is more reserved. This one can really go either way. It really depends on the specific story and characters.I'm pretty lax about seme/uke roles. As long as it isn't written in a way that feels completely OOC or otherwise illogical, I'm okay with it. I do have ships where I think it makes more sense with specific characters in specific roles, but if the opposite is done well, I'm open to it. I've noticed that in doujins and fanworks of my OTP, when people reverse their roles from my preference, they're more likely to misinterpret the overall dynamic (or at least, it's very different from the way I see their relationship).
No.4855
>Are you okay with riba or only fixed positions?
I don't care about who is topping but I'm very particular about the dynamic/personality being faithful to character portrayals in canon. Most of my ships are riba and I imagine them this way when coming up with my own scenerious/making my own content but when it comes to consuming stuff other people make I gravitate towards one fixed dynamic that generally misenterprets the character's personalities/dynamics the least. Positions don't matter but mischaracterisation is a huge turnoff.
>Do you usually like the uke more or the seme?
about 50/50
>Do you like ships where the roles are obviously defined? Or pairings where they are more ambiguous?
I like both if they are written well.
>Are you a Snake, Slug, Frog, Snail, Geeko, or Turtle fujo?
frog
No.5470
>>5469Didn't read the article but "homo yuri" makes my brain hurt.
No.5473
>>5469>Anyway, an osoi uke can be anything from simply touching, kissing, flirting, to groping or even sexually assaulting (yes, I mean raping, although not legally "raping" since he's an uke and ukes can't rape blahblahblah).Kek thanks for sharing! That was an interesting article, quite funny too. I'll save it for further reading and stuff.
No.5475
>>5474They missed the part where osoi uke always have to get dominated in the end. I'm pretty sure it said something like that on the pixiv dictionary page from my memory. I don't know if there's a term with the connotation that the uke stays dominant, similar to 'topping from the bottom' in English.
No.5476
>>5469One of my favorite pairings is ukexuke. I like that there's a term for it, but it's the kind of term that can attract the wrong people…
No.5477
>>5474agreed
>>5475>osoi uke always have to get dominated in the endI hate it when this happens ngl
No.5488
Not sure if this belongs in this thread, but I really like the concept of 'reverse noncon' i.e. uke on seme instead of seme on uke. With 'normal' noncon I can't suspend my disbelief enough for the whole 'I hate it but it feels good' thing since I keep thinking about how painful and dangerous the whole thing is for the bottom, but for reverse I feel less uncomfortable about the physical stuff. Wish it was a more popular trope.
No.5489
>>5488there was a fic read where the bad guy possessed the uke's body and forced the seme (his friend) to fuck him as psychological torture. i lowkey wanted the seme to get fucked tho.
No.5492
>>5488> 'reverse noncon' i.e. uke on seme instead of semebasically a powerbottom non-conning, right? At least that's how I understand it. I love powerbottoms in general but it's such a completely foreign thing to most jp fanartists because they can't comprehend an uke not being "an uke"
No.5493
>>5488this is pretty common, though? i was thinking about joining a noncon exchange on ao3 and this came up as a "want" quite a lot. maybe only westerners like it lol. it's my preferred noncon dynamic.
No.5495
>>5469Fuck, this is exactly what i like. I've read this page before but i completely missed that term. Thanks anon!
No.5496
>>5493I feel like it's something everyone says they want, but very few actually write.
No.5779
Fixed. I think everyone who disagrees with my view should kill themselves.
No.5864
I recently saw someone on Xitter saying that in western fandoms, people don't usually use ship names based on who's top or bottom; they use other standards, like which sounds better (a blanket term). Do you agree with this tradition, sisters? Or do you prefer things to be like in eastern fandoms, where it's better to specify your preference in your bio and block those who don't follow it?
Personally, I don't mind, but I think it doesn't cost anything to have a little respect for those who have fixated positions. I've seen a lot of stubborn people saying that's a thing of the past and refusing to tag properly. Reading other anons, I realize how frustrating it must be to be immersed in a 700k-word fic only to realize that the roles aren't what you wanted, and have to swallow that bitter taste because the author lacks empathy. And this is even worse with fanart.
No.5865
>>5864I will always prefer longform [top name]/[bottom name] because I'm old and like the namesake (slash!). It's a little troublesome to browse by namesmash because you don't inherently know the correct smash and it can differ across languages. I'm okay with namesmash seemingly winning the ship label war though–I remember shit like "Palletshipping" and "Pompous Pep" being the norm in western fandoms. Crackhead shit!!!
Unlabeled top/bottom is annoying. Sometimes when it's a ship I'm autismal about and the fic is long and E and unlabeled I'll glance at the sex and check.
No.5867
>>5864using ship names based on what sounds better only creates confusion, especially in fandoms based on asian media and/or in fandoms where asian fans interact with western fans. i think it's bad etiquette to say AB when you mean BA or ABA, particularly when talking directly to others.
what i hate the absolute most is when there's several ship names for the same pairing because of western fans creating new portmanteaus. it's like they couldn't be assed to look up what jp fans were using
for example, p4's souyo vs shuhana drives me fucking crazy. the only thing worse is what
>>5865 mentions, which are the X-shipping names. garbage, embarrassing, and cringe.
in general, on a personal level, i also don't care much about t/b for most ships, but i do have a few that are exceptions, where i'm strictly "x character is a bottom." that said, i think in cases where people feel "lied to" for reading a 700k fic with the wrong dynamic because t/b wasn't tagged, idk it's pretty easy to skim through for a sex scene and see how it's being written. if the wrong configuration makes you wanna kill yourself, that's worrisome imo. being annoyed is justified, but the vitriol some people have for non-taggers is a bit much for me, especially in western spaces.
No.5869
>>5864I'm a fixedfag so traditional top/bottom naming scheme of course. As for AO3 if an explicit work is untagged I just quickly CTRL+F "dick" or "thrust" to not waste my time.
I do wonder what you're supposed to do if you're a switchfag posting something SFW. People don't use ABA ship names and some fixed shippers are super finicky about portrayals even if the work isn't NSFW and don't want you using AB/BA ship names or tags if you're a switch shipper.
No.5870
>>5864I always tag my pairings as bottom X and top Y in explicit works. I don't like basing character portrayals / personalities on ship orders, so I don't tag sfw fics that way. I really like how western fandoms are much more lax around tops or bottoms personally, but I do get annoyed sometimes for fixed pairings.
Nearly every pairing with a Kaworu or Ryo expy needs the white-haired boy to top the brown-haired protagonist or whatever. Komaeda tops Hajime, end of story. Also personally don't like (unexpected) power bottoms. No.5871
>>5869>I do wonder what you're supposed to do if you're a switchfag posting something SFW. I don't know if this is considered a hot take or not, but I really feel like it shouldn't matter for SFW works at all and fixedfags don't have a right to complain there. SFW dynamics of a ship shouldn't be defined by the top/bottom order at all in the first place.
No.5872
>>5871agreed but i think anon's point was that even for sfw fic, people use AB and BA to advertise on social media, oftentimes whichever ship config they're used to or like.
No.5875
>>5864I prefer a ship having just one name because it makes it easier to find, so in that sense the '-shipping' or AxB type of name is convenient. I don't usually care about top/bottom order or am willing to read both but if you want to find riba / position agnostic fic then it can get annoying really quick. It could be tagged ABA, it could be tagged BAB, it could be tagged AB and BA, it could be tagged with just the fu tag. It could be not even tagged with any of that, just the character names or even less. And I almost always find that those rare fics have the best characterization.
So in my mind, the best solution is like
>>5870 said. Separate tag for who's topping/bottoming. But isn't it only relevant for fic involving anal/maybe intercrural to begin with? Do you really need a tag for something like frottage, mutual masturbation, blowjobs, just kissing, etc? Dominant/submissive roles aren't equal to top and bottom either. It's just whose dick is going in whose hole. So if there's no dicks going in holes, it's not even needed.
I could also get into the bullshit that is BL hetbend being included in the fu tag but that's another issue entirely. At least on Ao3 it would go under het, but trans/cuntboy fic is still going to be under M/M. At least it's something…
>>5870>I really like how western fandoms are much more lax around tops or bottoms personallyI like this too, but I think the tradeoff is higher likelihood of annoying fanon, like flanderizing or inventing new speech quirks or making everyone curse way too much.
>spoilerEveryone should tag their power bottoms so I can find them. Still not common on Ao3 but at least it exists at all there…
No.5878
>>5869I think tagging it as ABA or BAB should be fine
>>5870>I really like how western fandoms are much more lax around tops or bottoms personallyI hate it lmao. if you have an unpopular fixed dynamic it makes finding them so difficult. I also hate it when they specifically tag a ship as having top A/bottom B only to randomly mention top B out of nowhere
No.5879
>>5878>tag a ship as having top A/bottom B only to randomly mention top B out of nowhereI'm a fan of an unpopular dynamic and this happens 8/10 times I read an explicit fic of them, it annoys me so much. Idk if the authors just do it to throw a crumb to the (few) AB fans reading their fic but it needs to stop. Also hate it when an AB shipper writes a BA fic for fun/variety and they always make a big show about a character bottoming for the first time and how it's not their usual arrangement.
No.5882
>>5867>that said, i think in cases where people feel "lied to" for reading a 700k fic with the wrong dynamic because t/b wasn't tagged, idk it's pretty easy to skim through for a sex scene and see how it's being writtenThis is what they mean by empathy. Mfs who refuse to tag properly just because "it's the year 2025" or something like that instead of creating a comfortable space for everyone. I don't want to sound like one of those Japan suckers, but in some ways, it's clear that eastern fandoms are ahead of us. Of course, it's a more polite, civic-minded, and considerate culture.