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>>3 No.7030
>>7028AO3 isn't Literotica anon. Tagging is optional. And people writing anything with cuntboy are generally using E.
Don't think I'm defending it either, I'm just being plain.
No.7031
>>7030The major issue I take with it is the 'rules for thee but not for me' aspect. If you posted something with a canon trans character and made them cis without tagging it, you'd be inundated with annoying tifs telling you to kill yourself in the comments.
Actual cuntboy is written by men, sure, but the fandom stealth trans man stuff is all written by women on testosterone.
No.7032
>>7031I get it.
They are annoying, but the best anyone can do is mute. Though, I would love to write Jax/Kinger yaoi out of spite. And un-nonbinary Zooble while I'm at it. The Annoying Digital Circus fans need trolling.
No.7034
>>7032Keep in mind Ragatha & Zooble's VAs are both TIFs yet they regularly get misgendered, it's bullshit all the way down. And everyone understands Zooble is female, like she gets called a lesbian/gay, so it would be cool if you just said out loud what everyone already knows. Please write the yaoi, the fans can't even say shit because troonworx said anyone can write Jax's gender however they like.
No.7037
Not sure if this is the right thead for this, and this is extremely petty, but does anyone else get disappointed when they receive a nice comment on their fic, only to see that the commenter also praised a fic that is, quite frankly, complete trash and OOC? It kind of makes me feel like their opinion of my fic has no credibility anymore kek. I don't even know how to respond to this comment. I was excited at first, but now I feel like their words have no value to me, even if it was all positive feedback.
No.7038
>>7037I used to always click on the profiles of commenters and kudos-ers but stopped for this reason, too many times their own fics or bookmarks would be trash or stuff that actively squicks me. Although since I got the site skin to hide fics based on tag, I can somewhat safely do this again because those fics will just not appear anymore. Still means that if I click on someone, find they have written my fandom and nothing shows up, it's a red flag.
I also stopped looking through the bookmarks of people who fave my work on Pixiv because some of the stuff that people are willing to publicly show others is insane to me, not that I don't admire the balls but I could never. Still, I'm always at least 50% likely to see a bunch of het porn involving my BL ship or just stuff that isn't my taste.
No.7039
>>7037Yes, it's made me question their standards and put no credence into their compliment honestly. I'd still thank the commenter either way but mentally put the praise aside since they'd be happy with anything lol. Maybe it's dickish but it's private thoughts so I don't care.
No.7040
>>7037I get so few comments that I don't mind, and I do like to see what kudos-ers have written and it's always cool to see authors who have written things I've personally enjoyed, but I appreciate any comment and just assume the person is young if the fics are bad.
No.7041
>>7039>put no credence into their compliment honestlyYeah. It honestly makes me worried that my fic is as trash as the rest of their taste.
No.7042
I think some of you are thinking too hard about it, people enjoy fast food & gourmet food for different reasons. Maybe the other fic had a specific fetish they enjoyed or they thought it was good for erotica but liked your fic for less superficial reasons and the actual characterization. I don't think having trash taste doesn't mean they can't enjoy good stuff sometimes, esp when (imo) a lot of fanfic is not the greatest so when entering it you have to subconsciously keep that in mind.
No.7043
>>7037I'd like to think that I'm proving to them how good the IC version of things can be, and that after reading my work they might find themselves craving something closer to my interpretations. In essence they've read my arguments for it and agreed.
>>7042This is definitely true of active readers. There's only so many good fics you can find of a specific ship or theme and sometimes you don't want a big multichapter saga to get to the one trope you want. I've had fandoms where I was far more forgiving of poor quality prose because it presented some interesting what if scenarios that admittedly stretched canon quite thin, but that was rather the point since it couldn't happen under any other circumstances.
No.7079
>>7074>Or do the fics lean low quality so people don't read them?It's probably either "low quality" or "sounds good but not for me". IIRC Yu-Gi-Oh also has a pretty big catalog of popular ships rather than just one or two juggernauts so I think the kudos have more a shotgun spread than the average fandom. There are also more men than usual in the fandom YGO fandom spaces so I think that further flattens the average kudos.
No.7095
I wish fanfic writers on AO3 linked to their other sites/blogs in their profiles… I hardly see it.
No.7096
>>7095I think I'd die if people knew what I wrote…
No.7098
>>7095People used to be more open with this until it became an obvious harassment vector. I don't post fandom stuff anywhere I can't report some clown shitting up my comments.
No.7116
>>7098This is such a shame, because I really want to sperg out about series/ships with certain authors.
No.7128
>>7095I link on mine, but it seems like people aren't curious enough to check them out, kek.
No.7206
I really don't want all these wattpatards to flood AO3. There was already too much OC shit on there and these people are even worse at tagging than tranny zoomers.
No.7207
>>7206If it's Wattpad-tier garbage I'd just mute the users, the likelihood of them writing something good is slim.
No.7208
>>7206I'm not really worried, wattpad users are overwhelmingly M/F writers.
No.7209
>>7206What happened? I've been hearing fearmongering about this but I'm out of the loop
>>7208For me, I AM worried because my fandom is already full of trannyshit and wattpad hetslop genderbend so it's going to get even worse
No.7212
>>7209From what I get from twatter wattpad has banned all NSFW writing so its users are swarming to AO3 in droves. Old users are simply afraid that they will cause trouble since they ship differently, aren't used to AO3 tagging and are apparently already complaining about its structure and the evil users.
I doubt that the mods will give a fuck though, but I think that there is higher chance of getting idiotic comments on m/m fics if it happens to be about a series with m/f shippers.
No.7213
>>7208Yeah I've never heard of anyone that used Wattpad primarily for M/M. All the users I've known liked x reader/YN stuff and were pretty normie kek
No.7215
>>7212They started flocking to Ao3 a long time ago so it's just going to get worse than what it already is, but it's not like it's new. I'm pretty sure I never saw readerfic on the site until the first migration wave some years back.
>>7213There's a few. Scroll the tag for any popular new shonen anime or cartoon series and you'll see people making 'send me recs for these pairings' fic posts and some people calling their fics 'books' and shit.
No.7229
>>7215>people calling their fics 'books'God that's always been a massive pet peeve of mine from Wattpad migrants. If the description calls their fic a "book" I don't even bother. If you can't be assed to learn the culture and lingo of a new site then why should I bother to read your fic as someone who has been here for years?
No.7230
>>7212>From what I get from twatter wattpad has banned all NSFW writingSo they basically killed the only reason why anyone used the site? Lmao, why though? This reminds me of the Tumblr porn ban but that was because of Yahoo
No.7231
>>7229I don't mind people calling them books if, like, it's a million words and excellent quality, or a drastic AU, or something that really elevates it above the source material. Freeport, by Maldorochant, for example, or, uh… I'm sure there are other ones out there.
But shitty YN Wattpad slop? Absolutely not.
No.7236
So are we witnessing the death of Wattpad?
No.7253
>>7236Seems like it. Sucks because it was good containment for shitty (and often very young) writers
No.7400
Have you ever encounterd a fic from the POV of the writer's OC who is an observer to the couples romance?
No.7401
>>7400Sorry, I couldn't help but to think about The Great Gatsby.
No.7402
>>7400Closest I got was a fic where the Enterprise was observing Kirk and Spock's relationship.
No.7405
>>7400yeah. I’ve even seeked out fics from supporting character’s POV
No.7406
>>7405>yeah.Which franchise?
No.7407
>>7400Yes very very often, especially for HaikYuu or any fandom that has two characters that are meant to be famous and have to keep the relationship on the down low.
No.7408
>>7407Now you mention it I've read several social media fics where people use their friend's pfps as random NPC who discuss witnessing the couple and speculate on their relationship.
No.7409
>>7408Kekkk yeah or they reuse tweets/posts from their friends over the IRL guys they stan (usually these people are into kpop too). Your reply reminded me that I actually think the media 3rd person POV angle of a relationship can be interesting, I've read one for Hannibal (both involving OCs + canon charaters since Freddie is a journalist) and it was quite good, though they're more "infamous" than famous lmao. Some people go to the lengths of writing faux articles (those are called epistolary fics I think?) and I like them. I am surprised some anons haven't come across 3rd person OC fics before as I feel like especially for more taboo relationships they can be quite common because people like writing the disgust of a third party at witnessing their debauchery.
No.7415
>>7409I honestly never encountered that type of fic. Is it more common in live action series? Is there a specific tag for it on AO3?
No.7416
>>7409>reuse tweets/posts from their friendsHuh. Never seen that before, usually it's fandom in-jokes like someone mistaking a character for someone else or making one of the NPCs obsessed with a wildly inaccurate interpretation as a gag ("x is a mean strict top, look how y flinches from his touch" but the guy is actually the submissive bottom), but then I've only read ones for manga and novel series.
>>7415I don't do live action so I don't know about those but checking the ones I've read they all have the really broad tag "social media". Looking at the other fics in that tag, the ones where the summary looks like a chat exchange seem to be the ones using the templates instead of just being a story where social media is involved.
No.7427
>>7415I don't think it's more common in LA? If anything it's just a fandom thing, I've seen practically every popular series have one at some point. Mixed media fics (letters, diary entires, etc.) are likely to be tagged as epistolary, letters, journal entry, diary, etc.
>>7416Makes sense I know the Haikyuu!! ones I read were more like that (to my chagrin), but I know for Homestuck & any fandom that had a lot of KPOP/idol fans their friends in the comment section would be like "did you use my tweet???? lmao".
It's always a nice feeling to have an author who writes a ship nearly perfectly and she's made several of that couple. I really like the bittersweetness that is imbued in nearly every fic is not overstated or done clichely but simply matter of fact. It's really easy to make this couple seem happily-ever-after but they have so much left unspoken b/w them & so many issues as a result of their childhood + separation that I'm glad she's exploring that in a way that's not OOC.
No.7463
>modern-day AU
>it's either school settings or coffee shop
EVERY.FUCKING.TIME.
WRITE SOMETHING ELSE FOR A CHANGE
No.7472
>>7471Inaccurate although I understand the sentiment. Ao3 is infinite space with sane moderation. I'd only start worrying if weirdos start getting elected to the board (unlikely).
No.7473
>>7471it didn't really happen like this. ao3 was created because of ff.net shitting the bed moderation wise. wattpad is both older than ao3 and was largely it's own island catering to a slightly different audience up until recent years where there has been more toe-stepping between the sites.